Closed
Bug 1516
Opened 26 years ago
Closed 25 years ago
small-caps need boldening to match the big caps
Categories
(Core :: CSS Parsing and Computation, defect, P2)
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M17
People
(Reporter: howcome, Assigned: pierre)
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Details
(Keywords: css1, polish, Whiteboard: [nsbeta2-])
It's great that nglayout supports small-caps. I propose tweaking the scaling
factor -- when generating small-caps from caps -- slightly. As it stands, I find
the nglayout scaling factor to be too small. I perfer the scaling factor OPera
3.50 use. See section (9) of the test page for an example. This has nothing to
do with conformance and you should have enogh typographers in place to find the
best factor.
I [todd fahrner] agree that the synthetics are too small - looks like you're
using .5em. I think you'll have better results visually with .67 or .75em -
might even embolden the downscaled guys to maintain consistent weight with the
capped cap
Updated•26 years ago
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Target Milestone: M7
Comment 2•26 years ago
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Looking at small-caps as used in the "real world", e.g. in printed publications and
on TV, it would seem that 0.67 is the scale factor most frequently used. Also,
the small letters are indeed usually boldened a little, as Todd suggests, so that
the visual effect is that the small caps look like they have the same weight as the
big caps.
Updated•26 years ago
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Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Comment 3•26 years ago
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Actually, the small caps are .70em (and always have been)
Comment 4•26 years ago
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Actually, having had a closer look, the size of the letters looks ok. It's the
boldening thing that is making it look bad.
See, for example, the level 2 headers in:
http://www.bath.ac.uk/%7Epy8ieh/internet/html40/
Updated•26 years ago
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Summary: small-caps scaling factor → {css1} small-caps need boldening to match the big caps
Updated•26 years ago
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Target Milestone: M10 → M11
Comment 5•25 years ago
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Moving non-beta 1 items to M15
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Comment 6•25 years ago
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Reassigning peterl's bugs to myself.
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Comment 7•25 years ago
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Accepting peterl's bugs that have a Target Milestone
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Updated•25 years ago
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Assignee: pierre → mjudge
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
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Comment 8•25 years ago
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The handling of NS_STYLE_FONT_VARIANT_SMALL_CAPS is done in nsTextFrame.cpp.
Reassigning to mjudge who seems to have worked on that file lately.
If you need some help, you may want to contact Don Cone <dcone> has some cross-
platform experience in gfx & fonts.
Comment 9•25 years ago
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Migrating from {css1} to css1 keyword. The {css1}, {css2}, {css3} and {css-moz}
radars should now be considered deprecated in favour of keywords.
I am *really* sorry about the spam...
Updated•25 years ago
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Summary: {css1} small-caps need boldening to match the big caps → small-caps need boldening to match the big caps
Updated•25 years ago
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Target Milestone: M15 → M17
Comment 10•25 years ago
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Nominating nsbeta2,nsbeta3,rtm. Recc. nsbeta2+, falling through to nsbeta3+ and
rtm+ if necessary. This is a W3C CSS1 Official Test Suite compliance bug.
Changing severity to normal.
Comment 11•25 years ago
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Sorry, to clarify: this is not an nsbeta2 stopper, but I'd permit checking in
prior to nsbeta2 if we have a fix. Recc. nsbeta2+[some lenient date-], falling
through to nsbeta3+ hard stop if not fixed during nsbeta2. This is a W3C CSS1
Official Test Suite compliance bug.
Comment 12•25 years ago
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PDT needs info for nsbeta2 evaluation: is this a conformance issue or not? The
reporter's comments say it's not, but Eric's comments on 6/14 says it is.
Whiteboard: [NEED INFO]
Comment 13•25 years ago
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Putting on [nsbeta2-] radar. Not critical to beta2. ekrock at bug triage mtg and
agreed.
Whiteboard: [NEED INFO] → [nsbeta2-]
Comment 14•25 years ago
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This isn't *really* a conformancs issue, but it looks so ugly the way we have
it that we *really* don't want to ship with it. It's a high-priority polish
issue, I guess.
Keywords: polish
Comment 15•25 years ago
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per beppe, reassigning back to pierre i thought this was dup of bug 13348. on
closer look this has nothing to do with anything i know about. This really is a
layout issue only.
Assignee: mjudge → pierre
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Comment 17•25 years ago
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See my comments from [2000-03-18 23:48] in bug 32252: the scaling factor has been
increased and small-caps are now displayed identically in MacIE5 and Mozilla.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 32252 ***
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 25 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
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