I haven't really looked a the gopher behavior in a long time, the last time I looked was so long ago that I wasn't even working on Networking QA, so I put my notes on my personal website. This bug digest was referenced in some networking tests, and it needed to reference a bug instead. The stuff in that digest needs to get converted to an updated dependency tree in bugzilla, when that is done, the URL should be deleted from the field.

Gopher is really broken now, in several ways: 1- Gopher links displayed in the gopher displays are messed up, they display the current URL as the base, bug 184180. This makes all gopher directories unusable. 2- Gopher has always lacked decent error handling, like connection establishment timeout and hostname not found, but the more recent 1.3x behavior is to display an index/html page w/ no entries. 3- Gopher space seems to be disappearing at an astonishing rate. The original gopher server at U of Minn seems to be gone, after months of lousy uptime. There was a "gopher manefesto" published, to save gopher. Not only could it not find a gopher server to host the file, but the web site is now gone as well. Right now, I'm looking for a new gopher site for my networking smoke tests. Perhaps we should think about taking this out of the trunk. I've marked the relevant bugs for 1.4a so that we can start thinking about the seriousness of this problem. If this were a commercial feature, I'd be failing it as QA.

gopher://gopher.tc.umn.edu is still up. gopher://gopher.publication.org.uk is my personal site, and pretty stable. gopher://gopher.floodgap.com is ptloma.edu's site gopher://gopher.quux.org has lots of resources That's just off the top of my head. You can find more links from those.

I for one would really like to see Gopher support fixed, it is very irritating to keep having to switch to Netscape 4 when I want to browse Gopher sites.

Peter Tynan wrote: > I for one would really like to see Gopher support fixed Then _VOTE_ for this bug (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=194220). And get all your friend, enemies, etc. to vote for it, too (but: usually mozilla.org people don't care about bugzilla votes except you break the "50 votes" barrier (100 are better)) ... :)

Thomas: umn seems to be always down for me, so I'm going to start using your site as my home gohper site for my network core tests (I try to smoketest each major protocol handler). If you need to take it down in the future, please let me know.

to darin.

May it rest in peace.