Open
Bug 29497
Opened 25 years ago
Updated 2 years ago
Should refuse to send mail when address ends in tld ".invalid"
Categories
(MailNews Core :: Networking, enhancement, P3)
MailNews Core
Networking
Tracking
(Not tracked)
NEW
People
(Reporter: John.planb, Unassigned)
References
(Blocks 1 open bug, )
Details
Per RFC 2606, the tld (top level domain) ".invalid" is reserved for "munging" and
will never be part of a valid address. When someone attempts to send mail to an
address that ends in the tld ".invalid", Mozilla should at the least, warn about
this, and at best refuse to send the mail as long as any of the addresses end in
that tld.
Reporter | ||
Updated•25 years ago
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Comment 1•25 years ago
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Why should Mozilla have special-case knowledge about this? Under what
circumstances would an ordinary user encounter an address in .invalid? Why
mailnews and not the rest of the browser?
Comment 2•25 years ago
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marking unconfirmed bug WONTFIX since jgmyers seems to disagree with
this and the reporter hasn't further justified the request after two months.
Feel free to reopen this if you have more to add.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 25 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Reporter | ||
Comment 3•25 years ago
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Sorry, I seem to have missed jgmyers comments.
The tld ".invalid" is being used in news to indicate that the From address
has been "munged" -- so if someone has an address of user@isp.com,
they might normally munge that as user@spam.com, which is wrong
for a couple of reasons (1) it may belong to someone else, (2) it
creates unnecessary and unwanted network traffic, and finally (3) people
that go to send them email have to guess whether or not the address is
valid or not.
If they ALSO append the tld ".invalid" then all of these things instantly
go away -- ".invalid" doesn't belong to anyone, the mail/newsreader
(in this case Mozilla) can tell the user that it is undeliverable without
any network traffic at all, and because ".invalid" is guaranteed to not
be deliverable, there doesn't need to be any doubt as to whether it is or not.
As for why only mailnews -- why would someone give a URL that doesn't
work? And even if for some weird reason they did, the browser can
tell them that the domain can't be reached when it odes the dns lookup.
Reporter | ||
Comment 5•24 years ago
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For what reason is this being changed to "WONTFIX"? It certainly hasn't
gotten a lot of attention, but the problem still remains -- Mozilla will attempt
to send mail to an address which it knows (or should know) doesn't exist.
The use of ".invalid" to indicate an undeliverable address is both covered
by the official standards (i.e. there's a RFC for it) and is fairly common
practice among users (probably because it doesn't violate the Acceptable
Use Policy of their ISP, unlike other forms of munging).
Comment 6•22 years ago
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reopen. etiquette issue
Comment 7•22 years ago
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sorry, dupe
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 3744 ***
No longer blocks: 3746
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 25 years ago → 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
Comment 8•22 years ago
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What? No, this is not a dup. <me@whatever.invalid> is syntactically (per RFC822,
IIRC) valid. It will not work, though, because .invalid won't be delegated.
REOPEN. Different issues.
Status: RESOLVED → UNCONFIRMED
Resolution: DUPLICATE → ---
Comment 9•22 years ago
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rubber-stamp confirming John Moreno's bug.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Reporter | ||
Comment 10•22 years ago
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Thanks. Now that I'm commenting, I'd also like to say that this is *not* an
etiquette issue -- it's a matter of verifying the input and not wasting the
users time attempting to do something that can't succeed. You should no
more attempt to send email to a mail address ending in ".invalid" than you
should try to do so when there is no address -- because that is in fact the
case: "name@isp.invalid" should be considered equivalent to "".
Comment 11•22 years ago
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We ought to enable users to specify two email addresses for a news account: a
real one for mail replies, and a munged or spam-container address for news
posting. Then it would select the right address for the kind of reply being sent.
(Simply stripping the .invalid when sending mail wouldn't do it justice, since
people are likely to do more than just add .invalid if they really want to keep
the spammers out.)
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: MailNews → Core
Updated•16 years ago
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Assignee: mscott → nobody
QA Contact: lchiang → mailnews.networking
Assignee | ||
Updated•16 years ago
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Product: Core → MailNews Core
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
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