Mozilla includes some keyboard shortcuts that do not work with keyboard layouts other than the U.S. layout or slight variations of it shuch as the U.K. layout. Ctrl-[ and Ctrl-] (Back & Forward) are such shortcuts. In general safe shortcut take the form: Ctrl-[Shift]-[Alt]-key Where Ctrl is Command on Mac OS, Alt is Option on Mac OS and Shift and Alt are optional. "key" should be one of these: a-z , space esc tab arrow keys backspace If the user can be expected to reach to the numeric keypad, "key" can be one of these, too: 0-9 = / * - + (Note: even though Ctrl-/ is easy to type on the U.S. keyboard, it is particularly unergonomic to type on manyother keyboards.) Those are the sortcuts that can be, in general, typed with keyboard layouts inteded for the Latin script. It should be noted, that all typeable shortcuts aren't free for an application to use. On Mac OS at least the following shortcuts are reserved for OS use: Command-(any modifiers)-space Command-tab Command-Shift-tab Command-Shift-(digit) On Mac OS in locales with a script other than the Roman (ie. Western European, MacRoman charset) script the following shortcuts are reserved: Command-left arrow Command-right arrow On Windows at least the following shortcuts are reserved: Alt-tab Alt-Shift-tab On the Mac OS, Command-. is a safe shortcut (and has special meaning). It is important to note that these shortcuts should be fixed in the en-US version and not in localizations, because the en-US version is used by people from around the world with different keyboards. Also, if they are fixed in the en-US version, there is no need to fix them further in localizations.

reassign to UE group and cc related party. Please forward this to ANY UI designer. Please understand this is a problem with English build and L10N is not a solution because people ALSO want to use English build on different keyboard layout.

set it tot M17.

added two other UI designers to the cc list. Hope they can help German to get a solution if possible. However, i am not sure we can get there by M17 though. Thoughts?

Is there a list of all keyboard shortcuts available somewhere? Something like <http://critique.net.nz/project/mozilla/general/interface/keys/>? If so, Henri, Frank, et al. could go through it and find any shortcuts which weren't l10n-friendly. I think lake@netscape.com is working on a complete list of keyboard shortcuts. (For some reason, Bugzilla won't let me add lake@netscape.com to the CC list.) Perhaps this bug should become a tracker for bugs about individual keyboard shortcuts.

marking nsbeta3 and updating milestone Note that the specific issue of [ and ] is being discussed in bug 29941 and will be resolved there. But the description for this bug is very suitable to keep it open as localization verifier against the keyboard shortcuts. Yes the menu spec needs to be updated on mozilla.org, but what Lake was working on is figuring out keyboard navigation inside documents and across documents and windows. setting nsbeta3

Marking meta to make this one a tracker as Matthew suggested.

Marking nsbeta3- while assigned to German.

any update to NS6 keyboard shortcuts needs to be verified against this list! Keeping open.

Changed QA contact to ylong@netscape.com.

removing nsbeta1 kwd to avoid confusion since this was from Netscape 6.0. See http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ui/accessibility for more info on current assignments. re-assigning bug to aaronl for review, since he is working on this very thing right now.

Are there any shortcuts that are a problem now, or any shortcuts in the spec German pointed to, that are problematic?

We don't appear to have any known problems at the moment.

ylong: can you verify this bug?

I tried some non-English keyboard short-cut, seems it works fine with me, but I can't try all of them. Reporter: could you please specify some examples of problem on which language/OS? otherwise we might mark it as WorksForMe.

Changing to WORKSFORME. Please reopen this bug if someone disagrees.

Mark it as verified. We also have some bugs are talking about more specifical which keyboard/OS.