I know 'Classic' tries to imitate ordinary Windows programs, but is it possible to make it use 'Arial' instead of 'MS Sans Serif' as the font. These two fonts are *very* similar (most users wouldn't notice a difference), but with one important difference -- 'Arial' contains more characters. The reason I ask for this, is that I'm localizing Mozilla into Norwegian, and some characters don't display in 'Classic' (they do in 'Modern'). Examples are: U+0152 ("OE ligature" -- Œ) U+0153 ("oe ligature" -- œ (the same letter that is used in encyclopœdia)) U+2039 (quotation mark) U+2026 (ellipsis) U+2022 (bullet) U+2013 (en-dash) Actually, they're displayed as vertical bars (instead of being substituted with a character from a different font).

My Classic skin uses Tahoma, not MS Sans Serif (and my Windows settings are also Tahoma). Perhaps your system uses MS Sans Serif for its Windows font settings?

Last I heard, Mozilla was using CSS2 system fonts. On Windows 95/98, that means MS Sans Serif unless you specify otherwise; on Windows 2000, that means Tahoma unless you specify otherwise. If your system is set to a font which doesn't have these characters, isn't that a problem with your setup rather than with Mozilla? Ben?

Well, that's the strange thing. I've set all my fonts in 'Properties' | 'Appearance' to Verdana and Zurich, but I still get 'MS Sans Serif' (M17).

huftis@bigfoot.com - still seeing this problem? You really should have better Bugzilla permissions... fixed. Gerv

Reopening. I can still see this bug in M18 (I haven't tried any later builds). But I've found what's causing it. Nowhere does it say what font to use for menus. You'll have to chane this style rule in 'menu.css': ---------- menubar { background-color : threedface; } ---------- to ---------- menubar { font : menu; background-color : threedface; } ---------- I've also found another similar bug that can be fixed at the same time (just a simple one line fix). Change this style rule in 'toolbar.css': ---------- toolbar { background-color : threedface; min-width : 1px; // DON'T DELETE. Removes disappearance of scrollbars in content pane when window is made smaller. // Talk to evaughan@netscape.com for details. } ---------- to ---------- toolbar { font : icon; background-color : threedface; min-width : 1px; // DON'T DELETE. Removes disappearance of scrollbars in content pane when window is made smaller. // Talk to evaughan@netscape.com for details. } ----------

Changing summary and adding mozilla0.9 keyword (as mentioned, this is really easy to fix).

reassigning to an engineer *sigh*

Current build WORKSFORME so far as menu text is concerned. The default font for widgets is wrong however, it should be message-box so that all dialogs and labels are at least legible in higher resolutions.

In my latest build, 2001-01-04 (04), the system menu font is used (for menus) in the 'Modern' theme, but not in 'Classic'.

Yes, I saw this on Windows 98, build approx. December 28. Mozilla used MS Sans Serif for its menus, when every other program was using Trebuchet. -->Themes.

Themes Triage Team nsbeta1+

*** Bug 51748 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 62779 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 66509 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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I think that to get the menu font to be correct one it's better make this change: in menu.css ---------- menu, menuitem { vertical-align : middle; } ---------- to ---------- menu, menuitem { vertical-align : middle; font : menu; } ---------- and another things -- concerning tooltips in menu.css ---------- .tooltip { background-color : infobackground; border : 1px solid windowframe; color : infotext; padding : 2px; max-width : 40em; } ---------- to ---------- .tooltip { background-color : infobackground; border : 1px solid windowframe; color : infotext !important; padding : 2px; max-width : 40em; font-weight : bold; } ---------- I wonder why it doesn't work without !important, but it is! And I wonder why adding "font: info" doesn't do what it supposed to, so I can't managed to use the system font for the tooltip... concerning taskbar font in button.css ---------- .button-toolbar-4 { background-color : transparent; -moz-binding : url ("chrome://global/content/xulBindings.xml#buttonleft"); min-width : 0px; margin : 0px; border : 1px solid transparent; -moz-user-focus : ignore; } ---------- to ---------- .button-toolbar-4 { background-color : transparent; -moz-binding : url ("chrome://global/content/xulBindings.xml#buttonleft"); min-width : 0px; margin : 0px; border : 1px solid transparent; -moz-user-focus : ignore; font : icon; } ---------- concerning status bar font in global.css ---------- statusbarpanel { border-left : 1px solid threedhighlight; border-top : 1px solid threedhighlight; border-right : 1px solid threedshadow; border-bottom : 1px solid threedshadow; padding : 0px 4px 0px 4px; } ---------- to ---------- statusbarpanel { border-left : 1px solid threedhighlight; border-top : 1px solid threedhighlight; border-right : 1px solid threedshadow; border-bottom : 1px solid threedshadow; padding : 0px 4px 0px 4px; font : icon; } ---------- concerning comboboxes font in menulist.css ---------- menulist > menupopup > menuitem { padding : 0px 7px !important; min-width : 0px; /* should be in content*/ max-width : none; /* should be in content*/ border : 1px solid window; } ---------- to ---------- menulist > menupopup > menuitem { padding : 0px 7px !important; min-width : 0px; /* should be in content*/ max-width : none; /* should be in content*/ border : 1px solid window; font : pull-down-menu; } ----------

The fix for this bug is lumped in with the patch in bug 57429. I apologize for the lack of separation, but it was easiest for me to fix all my classic bugs in one fell swoop.

fixed

Marking verified on windows (2001-02-02-10-Mtrunk).