Need to get a list of sidebar customizations. Need to determine which ones will be exposed in the CCK UI or only through the CCK Administrator's guide.

Send it back when you have a list.

John, Can you or one of the side bar engineers help with tracking down sidebar prefs for CCK customizations when the time is appropriate. I would like to have a list of sidebar prefs, the possible pref values, and the default pref value. Thanks, Bij

Adding Tina to cc: list, since she's documenting manual customizations and prefs for the sidebar.

guestimating tfv, please verify

This is basically a question of what functionality of the Sidebar will be configurable in prefs, either exposed or not. I believe this is tbd. Reassigning to Steve Lamm, ccing selmer.

Adding to CCK external dependency list.

This has been languishing under the wrong product. Changing to "browser". This bug is a simple request for information. If we still do not have the information, please set the TFV to reflect when we expect to have the info. Thanks, Steve

There are no preferences that control the sidebar (or plans for any). There is a file, sidebar.rdf, that can be edited to change the panels in the sidebar. The open/close state and the show/hide states are remembered through rdf/xul persistence, not through the preferences.

Okay. Even without preferences, do we want to put a chapter in the CCK guide on customizing Sidebar or this a more general XUL customization issue?

The only things that is special about the sidebar customization is the list of panels that are put in there. The rest of the look and layout is customizable throught the usual XUL ways.

How are the panels managed? Is it just an URL for each panel? If so, could we move the specification of the URL to a DTD file to make it simpler to modify? It seems like the final CCK product should have a simple way to modify the panels that show up in the sidebar. We need to figure out an implementation that supports changing them from the CCK Wizard.

Panels have several attributes including a url, a title, a customize, link, prefered height. Putting everything in a DTD file would be rather unelegant. The sidebar customization is done in the client. The client customization dialog makes it easy to delete or reorder panels. Panels are added from a list at Netcenter. If CCK customers would like to add their own panels, they could either use that interface, or edit the file directly. The file format is a fairly simple text file, http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpfe/components/sidebar/resources/sidebar.rdf I am not sure how this would integrate with the CCK Wizard.

Are there any other questions I can answer? Are we done with this bug?

Steve Elmer needs to be comfortable with this option.

So, a distributor could just use the browser to create a new one? That's how we handle bookmarks too, so it's OK if a bit clunky. Why is it inelegant to use DTD files to contain strings? Everyone is doing that so I18N and L10N work. How will these things work in non-English?

The browser could be used to edit the membership. However, if the panels that they want to add are not in our list of available panels, they will need to either add them from javascript, or edit the file by hand. The sidebar does use DTD files for localizable strings, but we have not put urls in there to date.

Not sure what else you need from me on this bug. Marking worksforme.

Works for me: Platform: PC OS: Windows 98 Mozilla Build: 2000101020 M18 Trunk Build