Open Bug 83907 Opened 24 years ago Updated 2 years ago

Can't turn off plaintext graphical quotes without manually editing prefs.js

Categories

(MailNews Core :: Composition, enhancement)

enhancement

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Future

People

(Reporter: SkewerMZ, Unassigned)

References

Details

(Keywords: polish)

This is my biggest gripe with Netscape 6/Mozilla. There is no way to turn off the HTML-style quotes in the news/mail window. All lines starting with >, regardless of whether they really are quotes or whether someone is trying to make ASCII art with them (a common example is something like >>> Hello <<< being displayed as | | | Hello <<< ). Often arbitrary line breaks are inserted in various places, completely messing up the message. Instead of telling users what they want, give them the option! I've made small mentions of this in other bugs but I think it's time that this serious user satisfaction issue be made into its own bug.
Keywording. VERY important for nsbeta1.
*** Bug 83908 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
There's a hidden pref to turn this off.
I believe SkewerMZ has filed the same bug once before: bug 78447 Is there any difference between that bug and this one?
That bug's about the hidden pref (still unconfirmed, btw...). This one's about the lack of access to end-users. The other one will probably need to be fixed first.
I'm beginning to wonder if MailNews bugs ever get fixed. Or assigned. Or confirmed.
This bug depends on 78447 now.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Depends on: 78447
Ever confirmed: true
moving to the future milestone. Of course mailnews bugs get looked at and fixed. But there are over 2500 of them and less than 15 people working full time on mail so everything has to come in their priority order.
Keywords: nsbeta1nsbeta1-
Target Milestone: --- → Future
*** Bug 61453 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
No longer depends on: 78447
I believe that this is a dup of bug 76359. Marking as such. Please verify when (and not before) that bug is fixed, and reopen if necessary. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 76359 ***
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 23 years ago
Depends on: 78447
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
I believe it is not. This bug is about the ability to change the quoted_graphical pref in the UI. Please pay closer attention before marking dups.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: DUPLICATE → ---
I am able to turn off HTML style quoting in build 2001070808 but the old style way of quoting with > are all bunched together instead of having spaces like in NS4. The way it is now: > quote one >> two >>> three Instead of the old way: > quote one > > two > > > three Which makes it easier to read when you have a lot of levels of replies. Can this be fixed to have spaces in between the quotes? (>)
wjbell: Those comments probably should be posted in bug 76359 - this is about adding a pref in the prefs menu to set quoted_graphical without editing prefs.js manually. Re-summarizing to avoid any further confusion.
Summary: Can't turn off HTML-style quoting → Can't turn off plaintext graphical quotes without manually editing prefs.js
Thought. Does this belong in Browser>Preferences instead of MailNews>MWFE? I'll change this unless someone gives me a reason not to.
Changed, then.
Component: Mail Window Front End → Preferences
Product: MailNews → Browser
Target Milestone: Future → mozilla1.0
-> Owner and QA for Browser/Prefs. CCing spitzer.
Assignee: sspitzer → sgehani
Status: REOPENED → NEW
QA Contact: esther → sairuh
This is a request for a mail feature. They own their own prefs panel and account-specific pref panels. Back to mail.
Assignee: sgehani → ducarroz
Component: Preferences → Composition
Product: Browser → MailNews
QA Contact: sairuh → sheelar
Target Milestone: mozilla1.0 → ---
reassign->esther since she covers this part of composition.
QA Contact: sheelar → esther
-->varada
Assignee: ducarroz → varada
Severity: normal → enhancement
Target Milestone: --- → Future
Keywords: 4xp, mozilla1.0, nsbeta1
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Keywords: nsbeta1nsbeta1-
comment 12: ["> > quote"] > Which makes it easier to read when you have a lot of levels of replies. Arg! The quote chars are part of the sending process, while this bug is about the viewing process. Even if we would change Mozilla to send "> > quote" (we won't, because it would be against the f=f spec), you'd still see msgs from other mailers that way. When the disable quote bars pref is enabled, you intentionally see the quotes as the sender sent them. The graphical quotes are used especially because they are easier to read and consistent. You disable them to see the raw quote marks and then complain that the raw quote marks (which are part of the protocol/format) are hard to read. comment 11: > Please pay closer attention before marking dups. Eh, what? Back then, neither the Summary nor the initial description said that you wanted UI. Maybe pay closer attention when filing bugs. I don't think that any of the 4xp, mozilla1.0, nsbeta1-, nsCatFood, polish keywords are justified. As for the bug itself: I proposed this (a checkbox in prefs) when I implemented the feature, and the Netscape people decided not to have UI to switch this off, and I can understand them (although I may not agree). The major problem was to word the label, because the pref applies to normal plaintext only, not format=flowed (which Mozilla sends when sending plaintext). So, it's only one of 3 cases (HTML, format=flowed, normal plaintext) that the recognition and thus the pref applies to and that's far too wierd for the general user to understand. We cannot make the UI apply to the other cases as well, because that's technically practically impossibble with the current Gecko features.
OS: Windows 98 → All
Hardware: PC → All
taking all of varada's bugs.
Assignee: varada → sspitzer
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Product: MailNews → Core
sorry for the spam. making bugzilla reflect reality as I'm not working on these bugs. filter on FOOBARCHEESE to remove these in bulk.
Assignee: sspitzer → nobody
Filter on "Nobody_NScomTLD_20080620"
QA Contact: esther → composition
Product: Core → MailNews Core
Severity: normal → S3
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