From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011121 BuildID: 2001112108 Unlike previos bugs filed for mac OS, this is the exact opposite: Logical pages appaer more or less ok, visual text appears tottally reveresed Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. go to any visual page... 2. 3. Actual Results: text in the words is reveresed Expected Results: should be OK

This is what I see, using Build ID: 2001 11 23 03 and Windows 2000. Shoshannah: Just because I'm curious: What is the difference between "logical pages" and "visual text" in Hebrew?

Svante, Hebrew is a right to left (RTL) language, HTML and webbrowsers weren't really designed to consider this, so the first 'support' for Hebrew (and Arabic...) was done using a format called Visual where you lay text out backwards according to how a dumb webbrowser would display each character from left to right (LTR). Logical actually allows words and sentences to be typed into a document correctly instead of backwards. Reporter: are you certain this bug isn't a dupe of any of them?

reporter: which mac mozilla are you using? classic, CFM or Mach-O? there are only two live Mac OS X bidi bugs and they're both yours, does that mean you resolved bug 110655? The fact that you're running on OS X instead of OS8/9 should probably be able to explain this reversal of BiDi support.

Bug 110655 is not resolved yet, so I do not have control over the typface used to display Hebrew sites. However, Logical hebrew sites (like tapuz.co.il or ynet.co.il ) display more or less OK. the search i did for mac Hebrew bugs: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=hebrew&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=hebrew&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=hebrew&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=hebrew&field1-0-0=rep_platform&type1-0-0=substring&value1-0-0=mac brings up 8 bugs, all about logical pages, not visual. I am not sure how to tell if I am running CFM or Mach-O Mozilla- I downloaded this build from the latest nightly for mac OS 10 (not Classic). I am running OS 10.1, with Hebrew fonts taken from system 9.2 and a unicode/hebrew keyboard (avalible from http://forums.ort.org.il/scripts/showsm.asp?which_forum=307&mess=1020363 ) On the same system, I can get OmniWeb to display visual pages, but no logical ones.

the nightlies are CFM

I think fixing bug 116976 and 116982 will fix this problem

I believe the following three patch should fix most mac os hewbrew problem big endian issue in nsFrame.cpp see latest patch in http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116976 big endian issue in nsBidiImp.cpp http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=62917&action=view turn off hebrew reordering and do not report hint on mac gfx http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=62920&action=view

this should be fixed right now.