I just noticed that on my Ubuntu 14.04.3 (trusty) 64 bit there's no entry in the options panel to enable extended telemetry. I verified that this is also happening on Nightly.

[Tracking Requested - why for this release]: What's Broken: there is no way to turn on extended telemetry data collection on FF 43 on Ubuntu from the UI. Why is this important: potentially, no data extended/opt-in measurements will be collected on that platform, affecting our ability to perform analysis.

Note that it is not the official Firefox build, options might differ from the official build.

* Does it actually record & submit Telemetry? * If not, should it?

ni?dexter for checking and following up with Benjamin & Sylvestre.

It turns out that Firefox on Ubuntu: - records base telemetry but not extended telemetry; - is not sending out any ping (not base, nor extended). - used to have FHR reporting (at least it wasn't disabled using preprocessor defines), before we turned it off. Apparently, Firefox on Ubuntu is not defining: - MOZILLA_OFFICIAL, which prevents pings to be sent [0]; - MOZ_TELEMETRY_REPORTING, which also disables the "Share additional data" UI in the Preferences page [1]. @Benjamin and @Sylvestre: should Telemetry be reporting on those platforms? [0] - https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c5cb194cc9cb56d742fb3a7a826f0080b0404edc/toolkit/components/telemetry/TelemetrySend.jsm#1035 [1] - https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c5cb194cc9cb56d742fb3a7a826f0080b0404edc/browser/components/preferences/in-content/advanced.xul#203

To me, it should have the same behavior as the official build.

Made an introduction via email.

This seems like a basic scenario that we need working properly on Unbuntu if we want usage data. I'd be happy to take a patch (if not too risky) in Beta44.

Benjamin, is this something we plan to fix in FF44 time frame?

(In reply to Alessio Placitelli [:Dexter] from comment #5) > Apparently, Firefox on Ubuntu is not defining: > > - MOZILLA_OFFICIAL, which prevents pings to be sent [0]; > - MOZ_TELEMETRY_REPORTING, which also disables the "Share additional data" > UI in the Preferences page [1]. From what i gather, Firefox on Ubuntu has our official branding and we want to treat it like other official builds here. Do we know why MOZILLA_OFFICIAL is not set for this build? Because we don't built it ourselves? MOZ_TELEMETRY_REPORTING not being on is probably just a side-effect of MOZILLA_OFFICIAL not being set. Once we figure out the _OFFICIAL setting, we also need to check on how we can tell this build apart (is there partner info or other things?).

(In reply to Ritu Kothari (:ritu) from comment #9) > Benjamin, is this something we plan to fix in FF44 time frame? FF44 seems unlikely at this point.

Mike, could you help here? (comment #10) thanks! Tracked because I care about that!

Benjamin can you help us find an owner for this bug? It will likely be wontfixed for 44 at this point.

We have are talking with Chris from Ubuntu and are currently waiting on an update.

After a conversation with Chris Coulson (Ubuntu), we identified a clear course of action to resolve this problem: - Define both MOZ_TELEMETRY_REPORTING and MOZILLA_OFFICIAL (or work around MOZILLA_OFFICIAL in case they should not define it). - Allow to externally specify an Histogram.json revision when not using the mercurial repository (bug 1241111 takes care of that). They used to define MOZILLA_OFFICIAL, but they no longer do. On a quick look, there doesn't seem to be a technical reason for them not to define MOZILLA_OFFICIAL again. The question is: should they use this? Benjamin, do you have any opinion on this?

Doesn't that depend on what MOZILLA_OFFICIAL actually does? It's a preprocessor constant that affects a number of things. A quick MXR search shows these at least: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/modules/AboutHome.jsm#55 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/app/profile/firefox.js#967 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/devtools/client/framework/ToolboxProcess.jsm#213 I couldn't say which of those should be in Ubuntu official builds or not.

The FHR-dev thread: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/fhr-dev/2016-January/000764.html

Ubuntu builds should behave like our builds. I think they should be setting MOZ_OFFICIAL, and reporting any issues arising from use of that flag to Mozilla for consideration.

(In reply to Mike Connor [:mconnor] from comment #18) > Ubuntu builds should behave like our builds. I think they should be setting > MOZ_OFFICIAL, and reporting any issues arising from use of that flag to > Mozilla for consideration. We used to build with MOZILLA_OFFICIAL - we defined it when we started sending crash reports, and then removed it again sometime after http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8a6ed3ef085a landed.

Great, sounds like we can move forward on that path then. From what i understand the potential issues here are (please correct me): * SOURCE_REV_URL should be set properly so we can identify the correct Histograms.json for Telemetry submissions (handled in bug 1241111) * enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL enables MOZ_INCLUDE_SOURCE_INFO, we need to make sure that doesn't break anything (bug 1241883) * Make sure that enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL doesn't trigger undesired behavior on Ubuntu. Alessio & Chris checked through what it enables and it seemed ok. The about:rights notification should not show on Ubuntu, but can be disabled by a pref.

(In reply to Georg Fritzsche [:gfritzsche] from comment #20) > Great, sounds like we can move forward on that path then. > > From what i understand the potential issues here are (please correct me): > > * SOURCE_REV_URL should be set properly so we can identify the correct > Histograms.json for Telemetry submissions (handled in bug 1241111) > > * enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL enables MOZ_INCLUDE_SOURCE_INFO, we need to make > sure that doesn't break anything (bug 1241883) > > * Make sure that enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL doesn't trigger undesired > behavior on Ubuntu. > Alessio & Chris checked through what it enables and it seemed ok. > The about:rights notification should not show on Ubuntu, but can be > disabled by a pref. Yep, this is correct.

(In reply to Georg Fritzsche [:gfritzsche] from comment #20) > Great, sounds like we can move forward on that path then. > > From what i understand the potential issues here are (please correct me): > > * SOURCE_REV_URL should be set properly so we can identify the correct > Histograms.json for Telemetry submissions (handled in bug 1241111) > > * enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL enables MOZ_INCLUDE_SOURCE_INFO, we need to make > sure that doesn't break anything (bug 1241883) > > * Make sure that enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL doesn't trigger undesired > behavior on Ubuntu. > Alessio & Chris checked through what it enables and it seemed ok. > The about:rights notification should not show on Ubuntu, but can be > disabled by a pref. On this last point - I believe that the about:rights notification is actually meant to be shown in Ubuntu, and it was shown at one point (IIRC it was displayed via a button in an infobar). But having looked at this over the last couple of days, I discovered that it got moved to the start page in https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c950d2ea4c5b. As we use our own start page in Ubuntu, we obviously don't show it anymore and this has gone unnoticed for nearly 3 years :/

(In reply to Chris Coulson from comment #22) > (In reply to Georg Fritzsche [:gfritzsche] from comment #20) > > Great, sounds like we can move forward on that path then. > > > > From what i understand the potential issues here are (please correct me): > > > > * SOURCE_REV_URL should be set properly so we can identify the correct > > Histograms.json for Telemetry submissions (handled in bug 1241111) > > > > * enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL enables MOZ_INCLUDE_SOURCE_INFO, we need to make > > sure that doesn't break anything (bug 1241883) > > > > * Make sure that enabling MOZILLA_OFFICIAL doesn't trigger undesired > > behavior on Ubuntu. > > Alessio & Chris checked through what it enables and it seemed ok. > > The about:rights notification should not show on Ubuntu, but can be > > disabled by a pref. > > On this last point - I believe that the about:rights notification is > actually meant to be shown in Ubuntu, and it was shown at one point (IIRC it > was displayed via a button in an infobar). But having looked at this over > the last couple of days, I discovered that it got moved to the start page in > https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c950d2ea4c5b. As we use our own > start page in Ubuntu, we obviously don't show it anymore and this has gone > unnoticed for nearly 3 years :/ Ah, fun - i moved that to bug 1242566 (it's already broken, so it doesn't block the steps for enabling Telemetry).

Too late for Fx44.

Telemetry will be enabled on all channels for Ubuntu Firefox: their channels match our own channels (nightly, aurora, beta, release). They upload Beta every time there's a new Release. Nightlies are uploaded automatically every day - although this doesn't always happen (eg, there's an issue with or some of their patches don't apply cleanly). This is good to know and to take in consideration when we will be analysing this chunk of data, in the future. We're aiming for getting Telemetry from Ubuntu Firefox 45 Beta. Kudos to Chris Coulson for his help and patience!

The Ubuntu Team has started packing Ubuntu Firefox builds shipping with Unified Telemetry support. The support was added to all channels (nightly, aurora, beta, release). FHR-dev announcement: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/fhr-dev/2016-February/000819.html

As mentioned in comment 26, Ubuntu Firefox builds are sending telemetry pings. The data was validated both locally (bug 1243772) and server-side (beta channel, bug 1246631). We're waiting for Ubuntu Firefox 45 Release to be packed and released in order to validate release data. Is there anything else I need to do on this bug since it's tracked for Firefox 45?

The client work here is done, but this tracking bug still depends on the validation bug 1246631. I think we should track the client-side bug 1244688 instead and keep this one open.

All the dependencies have landed and the pings are correctly flowing in.

Hi What is the time-scale for this being rolled out across all of Live/Beta/Aurora/Nightly? I am using an Aurora PPA (reinstalled from scratch in the past five days, current version is 47.0a2 (2016-04-13)) on Ubuntu 16.04 and do not have any telemetry options in about:preferences#advanced (Data Choices).

(In reply to Seburo from comment #30) > Hi > > What is the time-scale for this being rolled out across all of > Live/Beta/Aurora/Nightly? > > I am using an Aurora PPA (reinstalled from scratch in the past five days, > current version is 47.0a2 (2016-04-13)) on Ubuntu 16.04 and do not have any > telemetry options in about:preferences#advanced (Data Choices). Thank you Seburo, Telemetry was rolled out across all channels, but as you noticed it appears not to be working on Ubuntu Firefox Aurora. I've filed bug 1271269 to deal with that. Thanks for bringing this up!

What about other Linux distributions?

(In reply to Botond Ballo [:botond] from comment #32) > What about other Linux distributions? We're working on enabling support for the other distributions as well. See bug 1285201 and bug 1285195. More will follow.