From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; en-US; rv:0.9.8+) Gecko/20020217 BuildID: 2002021708 Mozilla Does not show sidebar frame Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. visit this site! 2. 3.

no DNS entry for me...

I think the correct URL is http://aljazeera.net. On IE 6.0, you get a sidebar on the righthand side of the page. Mozilla does not show said sidebar. Viewing the page source may be hazardous to your health.

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page uses document.all to view those menus, tech evang

oops, btw, os = all and update the url

Moving to Tech evangelism and confirming.

there's a bug in bugzilla, the "and confirm bug (change status to NEW) " checkbox doesn't work. Marking as new

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From bug 191687: Error: document.all has no properties Source File: http://aljazeera.net/j-scripts/menu.js Line: 399

There is an additional problem with viewing this site: Clicking on any of the articles, I get the title but not the story, which is visible in the source. Computer info: Moz 1.3, Win98, PIII

Mac OSX Camino Problem with aljazeera articles also seen in Chimera 0.6 (Build 2002122004) and Camino Build 2003041205 Please try loading http://english.aljazeera.net/ Then click on any of the topics. The title loads but the article text does not. Works fine in IE The page source has the following javascript which might be the source of the problem. <script language="JavaScript1.2"> var nav = document.parentWindow.navigator; if (nav.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer") { if( document.all.date 1) { docDate = document.all.date1.value; } } else { if( document.getElementById("date1") ) { docDate = document.getElementById("date1").value; } } </script>

I have sent this email to aljazeera, to also make them think about the problem Btw, I tried the english pages and no clicking on subjects will show anything. Clicking on the arabic page though shows the new page (using mozilla 1.2 coming from redhat 9) Hope this helps and thanks to all who work somehow on this.

Other than the "document.all" problem, there is also a case of using JavaScript "unescape" on their Arabic menu titles. I'm not so sure why they're actually doing that, but the results would most likely be in Latin instead of Arabic. (see mozilla bug 200984)

arabic evangelism

wrong config over there it seems

The problem(s) persists even with 1.5RC1 - what's the status of this bug ? IE seems for function properly.

re:comment 17, this is evangelism bug, so it's not a bug in mozilla. The non-standard "document.all" is being used everywhere on aljazeera. Also, an hour ago, I sent an e-mail to aljazeera through their "netsupport" address (they seem to have more than one support address). If no change and no reply in the next couple of days I'll probably try the other addresses as well.

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same problem in firefox 0.8

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This is a serious and important issue that seems to have been reported at least half a dozen times in one incarnation or another for approximately two years now. Beyond branding it as an 'evangelical' bug (which I'm not quite sure what that means) can someone point out a definite reason why this issue is still an issue even with Firefox-0.9.2 ? If this is the site's problem, is it unique to this site or a common enough mistake to where a "this site is non-conforming" button ought to be considered to at a min allow the users to view it ? If they are not following the standard, could someone point out exactly what it is that they are doing wrong for us to harp on them to change it. For the record the site in question is http://www.aljazeera.net

tech evang means its not mozillas fault, but the site should get a webdesigner that knows what hes doing, or the site owner simply doesnt care for anything but IE compliance ;-) ... visit their site, then go Tools -> Web Development -> Javascript Console you will see alot of dhtml/js/layer related errors pop up. the site still uses document.all which is a pre DOM standard Jsciprt specific relict and shouldnt be around since the year 2000 anymore. so, they only care for IE or they dont know any better. beside that, there is 360 html errors ;-) http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.net%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&verbose=1

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This is now fixed in latest nighties. (See bug 248549 for details) --> FIXED

Sorry about the spam. Since there seems to be no official stance on how to resolve these "document.all" evangelism bugs, I'm reopening this one for now.

-> wfm

Conforming summary to TFM item 10 at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tech-evangelism/site/procedures.html#file-new