Closed
Bug 133960
Opened 23 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
RFE: New Mail alert should show mail account name, not login name for mailserver
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: MailNews: Message Display, enhancement)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
VERIFIED
DUPLICATE
of bug 225413
People
(Reporter: jesse.houwing, Assigned: sspitzer)
References
(Depends on 1 open bug)
Details
Currently the Mail alert slide up thingy shows the login name for the account
that has new mail.
This should show the name of that account instead, because for many people the
loginname is just a weird bunch of characters or in my case numbers that mean
nothing.
QA Contact: olgam → gchan
Summary: Alerter should show mail account name, not login name for mailserver → New Mail alert should show mail account name, not login name for mailserver
Based on the specs, it is intended to use the
username of the account. The other alternative
was to use the entire email address.
I don't believe we will change this.
Marking this as enhancement and adding RFE to subj line
ccing jglick. Jennifer?Scott I'll let you decide whether we
we want to mark this as won't fix or new.
Severity: normal → enhancement
Summary: New Mail alert should show mail account name, not login name for mailserver → RFE: New Mail alert should show mail account name, not login name for mailserver
reassigning to mscott and takig seth off list
Assignee: sspitzer → mscott
Reporter | ||
Comment 3•23 years ago
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In my case my account name is: "Student mail" and the corresponding username is:
"s9807543" I'd say the first option sound much better. This is also the name
that was chosen by the user, which is also to it's advantage in my opinion...
Was this never considered? Or was the username valued above this option?
Confirming. User's choice is always a good point. Especially if you have lots of
similar accounts.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Both Account Name and User Name were considered. The default name used for
"Account Name" is the email address (may folks don't change the default).
The reason User Name was initially picked was because it is in most cases
shorter than User Name and horizontal space is an issue. You can see samples
here: http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/specs/mailnotify/#Alert. This is still
subject to change if necessary.
Reporter | ||
Comment 6•23 years ago
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Can't you then just show the first 250 pixels of the mail address? (eg
"j.houwing@studen..." has new mail. That way at least something familiar to the
user get's shown.
The same could apply to the account name, which would then be the most logical
choice.
One more thing on this, if it was chosen to save space, why is it then that if
two mail alerts are shown at the same time (or some time ago even three in my
case) they get shown side by side? That way even the short username is way too
long. But this is probably an other bug.
I agree with the idea to show the account name instead of the user name for this
reasons :
- You can put the account name you want. It's not true with the username.
- You can truncate to XX character the account name, like that the user can
adjust the account name if he wants.
- The account name is more easy to understand in the little new message box when
you have more than one mail account in your mozilla (I have 4 account POP and IMAP).
Comment 8•22 years ago
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*** Bug 167920 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9•22 years ago
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The account name shouldn't be too long either, because it is shown in the
mailnews folder pane in bold case. With the current with of my folder pane there
isn't room for much more than 10-15 characters.
Also, it is not unlikely that a user has several mail accounts with the same
username (e.g. their first name). Or that a user has several usernames that
consist of "random" characters (like "mbx10432"). (The latter is in fact the
reason that I am annoyed by the current behaviour.)
*** Bug 131026 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11•22 years ago
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As far as usability and end-user comfort goes, I agree completely with the
comments here that the notification should not be the user name, but the account
name. Some of the alternate designed at the above-posted
http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/specs/mailnotify/#Alert link would seem to take
greater advantage of screen space, particularly #5, which takes advantage of not
only a smaller, cleaner looking font, but a more 'vertical' usage by double
stacking. It could be double stacked if the account name is too long:
someone@somelongser...
has 1 new messages
Or for a shorter server:
someone@shortserver.com
has 2 new messages
Comment 12•22 years ago
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*** Bug 197032 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13•22 years ago
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*** Bug 199854 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14•22 years ago
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*** Bug 200904 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15•22 years ago
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If the spec claims that because of space issues it's better to display
"047859 has 1 new message"
instead of
"joe@sixpack.net has 1 new message"
then that does not seem like a good trade-off to me.
Comment 16•22 years ago
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why not do:
silly@example.com has
1 new message
-- that way the number of messages is flush left. yes it wastes more vertical
space, but who cares?
Assignee: mscott → jglick
Comment 17•22 years ago
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In my case, I have the same username on two different mail accounts, so the
information in the alert is ambiguous. If bug 145982 is ever addressed, the
alert could be even more confusing.
Comment 18•22 years ago
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*** Bug 212966 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 19•22 years ago
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*** Bug 209711 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 21•21 years ago
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*** Bug 218553 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 22•21 years ago
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*** Bug 215534 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 24•21 years ago
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*** Bug 220634 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 25•21 years ago
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It seems that there's a workaround:
I did create a new account but as I didn't remember the username I wrote my
name, and when I finished filling the data I checked the proper username and
fixed it in the account settings.
The nice side is that new whenever I get mail in that account the alert pops up
with my name (instead of the username like the rest of my accounts do). So I
checked prefs.js and saw these lines:
user_pref("mail.server.server9.name", "the name that I wrote");
user_pref("mail.server.server9.realuserName", "the username");
I tested creating a realuserName entry for the other acounts and then the alert
shows .name while the username shown in the Mail&news account settings is
realuserName (and the one used to login with the server).
So until someone tells me that something is wrong about this and I'm killing
someone on the otherside of the world everytime my notification pops up with a
meaningful name in them, I will think about this as another hidden feature that
no one did notice.
Comment 26•21 years ago
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I've tried the above workaround with limited success. Alfonso Martinez, could
you be a little more specific as to what values you used for those preferences?
Also, are you using POP or IMAP mail?
I believe you meant that rather than "mail.server.serverX.name", the preference
that should be tweaked is "mail.server.serverX.userName" -- this in addition to
adding "mail.server.serverX.realUserName". However, I don't see any evidence
that the realUserName preference is used, in my POP accounts.
What I did, that seemed to work for some accounts, is change the "userName" pref
(e.g.) from "mcow" to "mcow@well" -- the new value being how I wanted the
account to appear in the notification. I added a "realUserName" pref for the
account, set to "mcow". This worked for the Well and one other account, but not
for a third. I created a POP3 log to check what was going on.
For the Well mail server, the POP login string went out as:
SEND: USER mcow@well instead of SEND: USER mcow
Apparently the POP software simply strips off the @xxxx portion of a login name;
authentication worked fine.
If I use some random string in "userName", login fails.
A different account with the same changes to the preferences doesn't use the
plaintext authorization, but instead uses some secure login (NTLM, CRAM-MD5 or
SCRAM-MD5, I'm not sure which). This account fails if the user name isn't
precisely the user name.
An additional drawback to the workaround is that the Password dialog displays
the account name as "mcow@well@well.com".
Comment 27•21 years ago
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Maybe I did some mistake in my previous post, so I'll try again:
I'm using IMAP with the 2003 10 28 04 nigthly in wXP, no encryption or security
settings of any kind sending or getting mesages.
looking at the prefs.js before I made the change I see that this is the name
that it's showing in the popup:
user_pref("mail.server.server9.userName", "alfonso");
that was the user name that I wrote at first when I created the account, then
after closing the wizard I went to the account settings and wrote the right
username (a mess of letters and numbers like isG349c for example)
I can see that this data is stored in this preference:
user_pref("mail.server.server9.realuserName", "isG349c");
so I changed the .userName preference with the email address and now that is
what I get when the alert popups.
I changed another account creating the realuserName entry with the user for that
account and putting the email in the .userName and that one seems to work fine too.
I missed a bit: after starting Mozilla it the asked me for the password for both
accounts, but I don't remember if it was in a proper way or it had two @ as Mike
Cowperthwaite has pointed out.
So if this works only for me then I'm sorry, I just tried to share this tip with
everyone else that is frustated as I was because the notification was almost
useless for me having several accounts and I can't remember which string of
numbers and letters applies to each account.
Comment 28•21 years ago
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Actually, Alfonso, the mistake is mine: I used the wrong preference name:
"realUserName" instead of "realuserName"
the difference being the case of the 'U' character. I discovered this by trying
exactly the steps you outlined; I then saw that the account had one preference
set with each name.
After correcting, Mozilla uses the preference exactly as you described
originally. Yay!
Comment 29•21 years ago
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I've discovered an apparent bug with the preferences-hack described above:
apparently the folder preferences in Account Settings|Copies&Folders are keyed
to the 'userName' preference: the Sent, Drafts and Templates folders are all
specified using the exact text of 'userName'. For instance:
user_pref("mail.identity.id1.fcc_folder", "mailbox://mcow@mail.well.com/Sent");
In my case, I noticed this because I went looking for mail I'd sent and couldn't
find it -- it wasn't saved due to this glitch. So, I've backed out the change
and am using only 'userName' again.
Comment 30•21 years ago
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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 225413 ***
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
verified dup
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: Browser → Seamonkey
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