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Bug 151638
Opened 22 years ago
Updated 2 years ago
[RFE] sort inbox by tag (request for more labels, views, category based on addr book)
Categories
(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, enhancement)
Thunderbird
Mail Window Front End
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(Not tracked)
NEW
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(Reporter: ducky, Unassigned)
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(Blocks 1 open bug)
Details
There needs to be a way of organizing messages in the inbox by rough priority.
I don't think the Priority and Label fields are finely-grained enough AND
resetting the Priority field loses whatever Priority the sender has given it.
One solution is to set up a View; another is to add more Labels.
WHY DO I THINK THAT?
In the course of writing a pair of books on how to get through email faster (the
_Overcome Email Overload_ book series), I talked to hundreds of people about how
they used email. I was shocked to find that very few people -- even some
hard-core hackers! -- used filters. Over and over, I heard variations of, "If
it's not in my inbox, I won't look at it."
The fabulous paper by Whittaker and Sidner at
http://www.lotus.com/lotus/research.nsf/a1d792857da52f638525630f004e7ab8/14c206be32b672b4852563bf00666339/$FILE/sw_txt.htm
explains why: people use their inbox as sort of a "to-do" list. They like to
see what messages are still active -- that then need to read, respond to, or act
upon. When messages move into folders immediately on arrival, it's hard for
many (most?) people to keep track of their active messages.
(Note that it's just fine to move messages that are not likely to become "to-do"
items: spam and most mailing lists can move without hampering someone's ability
to see their "to-do" messages.)
Yes, some people can use folders to manage incoming messages. Heck, *I* use
folders. But many (most?) people don't have the skill (memory?) to be able to
pull that off.
SOLUTION PARAMETERS
To organize messages in situ, in the inbox, means being able to sort the inbox
by something meaningful. One way to do this would be to have a View that groups
messages by which Address Book the sender is in. If you can rank-order your
inboxes, then you can have messages sorted e.g. like this:
spousal unit
bosses
immediate co-workers
family
friends
others inside company
strangers (i.e. not in address book)
If the user can't rank-order the address books easily, all is not lost; simply
put an ordinal letter at the beginning of the address book name, so Aunt Mabel
would have address books named e.g.
a-Sweetie
c-ChainOfCommand
h-Payroll
i-FlossRecyclingIncInternal
j-Familiy
m-Temple
n-Parachuters
o-RoseGardeners
p-OtherFriends
z-BlockedAddresses
Creating a View to sort first by sender's address book (second by date) is
relatively clean (and has the advantage that Aunt Mabel doesn't have to touch
filters) but gets kludgy for mailing lists. Either you have to shunt mailing
lists off to folders or you have to have a special Address Book for mailing lists.
I'd also like this View to rank messages from strangers by score (see bug
151622), so conceptually that View gets a bit kludgy.
You could also use Priority to order your messages, but it seems poor form to
override the sender's Priority. Yes, yes, I know, senders lie about the
priority, but *some* people are going to want to keep Priority intact.
Labels and Priorities both have the disadvantage few numbers. Aunt Mabel has ten
different groups, and I wasn't even trying hard. I also didn't make groups for
her mailing lists. I think that an unlimited number would be nice, but 16 is a
bare minimum. 32 would probably be adequate for most people.
Labels are bound with color, and I'm not sure that the grouping field -- I'll
call it "category" for now -- should be bound with color. Many people like
using color to denote how they were addressed (To, CC, Bcc). In a perfect
world, we'd have a separate field for color and for category.
PLEA
When I advise people on getting through email faster, there are three things
that make people's eyes really light up. (Coloring by To/Cc/Bcc is the second.)
Prioritizing messages *in the inbox* by sorting by category is the number-one
way to light them up. People who get a lot of email and implement this strategy
tell me they get through mail between 25 and 75% faster than before.
I realize that this would be tough to implement with IMAP, but that's no reason
to deny it to the POP users.
We already have a request for allowing an arbitrary number of labels -- bug
114656. And we have some existing bugs about filters based on address books,
and requests for filters on just about everything under the sun.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Summary: [RFE] sort inbox by category → [RFE] sort inbox by category (request for more labels, views, etc.)
Summary: [RFE] sort inbox by category (request for more labels, views, etc.) → [RFE] sort inbox by category (request for more labels, views, category based on addr book)
Reporter | ||
Comment 2•22 years ago
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Whoops, sorry -- this is very similar to (but not identical, alas) to 33296.
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: MailNews → Core
Comment 4•17 years ago
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sorry for the spam. making bugzilla reflect reality as I'm not working on these bugs. filter on FOOBARCHEESE to remove these in bulk.
Assignee: sspitzer → nobody
Assignee | ||
Updated•16 years ago
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Product: Core → MailNews Core
Comment 6•16 years ago
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Bryan, does this fit into the grand scheme? (not blocking 432710 yet in case this goes wontfix)
This is a bit all over the map, but summarized as "Prioritizing messages *in the inbox* by sorting by category is the number-one way to light them up." And, presumably, would require ORDERED list of tags, which we don't currently have.
xref the bug about hierarchical tags
=> Front end
Component: Filters → Mail Window Front End
Product: MailNews Core → Thunderbird
QA Contact: filters → front-end
Summary: [RFE] sort inbox by category (request for more labels, views, category based on addr book) → [RFE] sort inbox by tag (request for more labels, views, category based on addr book)
Version: Trunk → unspecified
Comment 7•16 years ago
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I like the ideas, but this is a bit all over the map so it's hard to know where to start. Also, being this deep into our release cycle likely means that items without lots of clear definition won't get enough traction to make it. Perhaps with more focussed effort on breaking this down into pieces that can be worked on or if this was done as an extension we would have a talking point to move forward with.
Updated•16 years ago
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Blocks: tb-tagsmeta
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
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