Mouseover should function like mouseover on page link 1) switch to hand icon 2) show URL in status area -- (questionable) 3) duplicate tab/window command-clicking preferences

> 1) switch to hand icon WORKSFORME moz 2002081508 > 2) show URL in status area I see tool tips (fly-by hint boxes) which work better 3) duplicate tab/window command-clicking preferences dupe of 59132 reporter, please read "Bug Writing Guidelines" <http://www.mozilla.org/quality/bug-writing-guidelines.html> before filing a bug. And please file separate reports for separate bugs/RFEs *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 59132 ***

oops, this is a Chimera bug. sorry

Will, your items 1 and 2 WorkForMe using Chimera/2002081605 on [http://www.mozilla.org/]. I don't understand what your item 3 means.

On Chimera/2002081605, I'm not getting a hand cursor nor any change in the status bar when I mouse over a bookmark in my Bookmarks Toolbar. (Mozilla does give a hand cursor, and additionally underlines the bookmark.) I'm not sure they should though, as we're basically trying to emulate the main toolbar. There the mouse is expected to remain an arrow and tool tips are used to provide further information. I wouldn't expect a hand cursor and status bar update when I mouse over the "Back" or "Reload" toolbar icons. I would go for #3 though. It would be very convenient if I were able hold down the command key and click a link in my Bookmarks Toolbar to open that bookmark in a new tab. Currently to open a bookmark in a new tab requires: creating a new tab, switching to the tab, and clicking on a bookmark.

Ah ha, using Chimera/2002081605, I now see that the mouse cursor and status text don't change on mouseover on a Personal Toolbar bookmark, when the window is blank. Will, Ben, is that what you're experiencing, as well?

Build Chimera 2002081605 Chimera behaviour: Mouseover an icon on the personal toolbar doesn't give ANY visual feedback, whether the page is blank or not. After a delay, tooltip of link ONLY pops up. Mozilla behaviour: Mouseover folder: cursor does not change, but folder icon embosses Mouseover bookmark: link underlines, cursor changes to hand, after delay, tooltip of title and link pops up. #3 (comand-click) is covered for Mozilla in bug 59132, does it need an extra bug report against Chimera?

The URL should not be in the tooltip as tooltips should be brief (!) descriptions of some sort of object, and we all know that URL can be very long. At most, a shortened (through dots) version of the URL could be in the tooltip. The tooltip should show the description as entered in the bookmark properties, plus the keyword, if available.

I think being able to command-click on a toolbar bookmark to get it in a new window/tab is a valid enhancement. I agree with Ben's comment 2 about how underlining/changing color/embossing things in the toolbar is not appropiate in Cocoa, and showing the URL in the status bar is the same kind of problem with making a UI element act like HTML, although I don't feel so strongly about that one (I do feel strongly about not underlining/coloring/embossing active toolbar items; that is going to make Chim feel like Netscape Communicator). Re: comment 6 I think the devs would need to decide whether Chimera is going to wait for the Moz bug to be resolved, so I would recommend that this either get duped to bug 59132 or confiremed as an enhancement to be able to cmd-click toolbar bookmarks.

It seems to me like nearly no-one wants the personal toolbar items to act like links, as it looks "wrong" in Aqua/Cocoa. I agree. Therefore, I'm turning this bug into a "Enable middle-click on personal toolbar bookmarks for loading them in a new tab" bug. If Mozilla bug 59132 fixes, make this a dupe of it, as suggested in comment 1.

The newer bug has more discussion about the feature, so duping to that. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 164990 ***

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