User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020909 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020909 On a Danish keyboard "[" is reached using option-8. The keyboard shortcut for "back" should therefore be command-option-8, however, this does not work (Chimera does not show any reaction at all). The keyboard shortcuts for forward (command-option-9), next tab (command-option-shift-9), and previous tab (command-option-shift-8) all work. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Go to a webpage 2. Go to a different webpage 3. press command-option-8 (on a Danish keyboard), nothing happens. (Go back manually using the menu or toolbar, then press command-option-9 and you are moved forward.) Actual Results: Nothing (see above). Expected Results: Gone to the previous page.

Jonas, FYI, it appears recent builds have restored command+leftArrow as an alternative Back shortcut when it's not needed by a text field. So, that could be a workaround for you.

Confirmed.

You can also use the Delete key to go back. Is that enough options? What does IE do for Back, on your keyboard, incidentally?

still an issue?

Still doesn't work (at least with a Norwegian keyboard which also have option-8 for [ ). However, I belive Apple is to blame since this doesn't work in the Finder either :-( Cmd-Opt-9 for forward works fine both in Camino and Finder.

Mabye because command-option-8 turns accessibility zoom on and off

Turning of "accessibility zoom on and off" in the system preferences enables the back keyboard shortcut in Camino (and Finder). I don't think Camino as default should override system keyboard shortcuts, so I guess theres not much that can be done to fix this :-( Since Camino already has two other shortcuts for back (backspace and Cmd-right arrow) I suggest WONTFIX.

Simon, Mike, since allowing this would change the default Mac OS X behaviour, I definitely suggest WONTFIX.

What does Safari use for Back? Is it localized to something else?

Safari uses Cmd-[ for back on English localization, but Cmd-leftarrow on Norwegian localization (stupidly this follows the system language and not the keyboard layout, running an English system with a another keyboard is quite common). Camino already supports both of these on both localizations, however, localizers may want to change which one is shown in the menu?

Adding [l10n] as it's potential at the moment and CCing Ludo to take a look.

Just for the record, Safari also supports all three versions of back (Cmd-[, Cmd-leftarrow, and Delete) in both localizations, the only difference AFAICT is what is shown as shortcut in the menu.

I'll ask the danish localizer on what he thinks is the right way to go.

Note that command-arrow combinations should be reserved for selection (move to start/end of line) so we don't want to use those.

In the Danish localization of Safari the following options are avilible for forward/back: command-shift-9("command-)")/command-shift-8("command-(") command-right arrow/command-left arrow backspace for back. I think Camino-da should follow Safari with: command-shift-9("command-)")/command-shift-8("command-(") and when no text fields are in use: command-right arrow/command-left arrow backspace for back. The menu shortcut in the danish l10n should be like this: "command( eller(or) CommandLeftArrow" because it would be clear what happend when a text field was active and it would do no harm to the text. The CommandLeftArrow is much easier to use so people should be told that it exist. If it is possible it would be best if Camino followed the keybord layout. on those two strings.

Bump. How hard is this? Just a matter of changing some shortcuts?

bugs in localizations don't belong here. if there is code that needs to change in order to support this (i'm not sure there is) then reopen this bug.