Opera has a really nifty option that makes the pain of windows crashing your browser for you (or miscelaneous bugs -- hey, it happens) a lot less frustrating -- an option to remember the last pages you had open so that you can pick up where you were so rudely dropped off. This makes the usage (especially of a product in development) a lot nicer -- i can handle the fact that things will crash (often, especially under windows): it's just really frustrating when you have to go dig up all the /. urls you had open and stuff ;p

user_pref("browser.startup.page", 2); works for me.

That pref works for me too. I guess the General panel is getting a little crowded with various buttons related to this, but nontheless I'm turning this into a bug about adding UI for this pref.

I think we're missing something here: that preference setting (well, at elast on the win32 port of 31/10/2002) *only opens up the url that last had focus*. What i was requesting was that all tabs open at the time of program termination would be opened when the browser is re-started. This is also really useful for the case where i get the latest nightly build, but i have to make sure that i'm finished with (or have bookmarked) all of the pages i have open in tabs in the browser when i quit. To reiterate: i don't just want to restart the last page that i had open and focussed: i want to restart all of the pages that i had open (or at least have the option to do so) thx dave

ok, i've received about 3 mails that tell me that i should add the line: user_pref("browser.startup.page", 2); to my prefs.js Guys, i did this *ages* ago, and, if you check my posting, i noted that this _only retrives the *last* page that i had open_. Whilst this is fine and dandy, the feature request i made was for something like Opera's ability to rmember *all* of the pages i had open in tabs, so that if i, for instance, had an instance of phoenix open with 3 tabs: www.planetquake.com slashdot.org www.little-gamers.com and i closed down phoenix, i would *really* like it to, upon reopening, open all 3 of those sites, in tabs, as i had them before the program termination (or at least give me the option). Abnormal program termination is not really a problem any more (thx, guys, the nightly releases of phoenix are getting better and better, and i really believe that this is an excellent project: i promote it to everyone i know, and am always fed back lines like "wow, it's so INCREDIBLY fast!". Phoenix is, i believe, set to be a common browser in the furture). The main reason i'm requesting this feature now is for the occasion where i choose to close down Phoenix, normally because i want to install the latest nightly build (: Please, Please, Please (wow, i sound like a Deftones cover here...) don't tell me again that i can add that little line above into my prefs.js. I know. I have it. O yeah, maybe the confusion is being brought in by someone running the Linux distro (although, i would have expected that the browser, being java-based, should have the same code-base across the platforms) -- although i have the linux distro, i haven't actually installed it at home (and i'm not online at home anyway, so it would only be for the viewing of static documents like hel pand such). In case it makes a difference, i'm running on Win32 (not out of choice: out of company policy) Thx to all the team working on this project. Keep up the good work! -dave

Agree 100% with Dave. Opera has this feature. Galeon has it. I can live without mouse jestures (sigh) but need to not loose my tabs. Thanks!

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You may have a look at Pike's Session Saver: http://www.pikey.me.uk/mozilla/#ss Not exactly the same as the one in Opera, but it's close, nice and works perfectly in Fb.

It is not just a metter of retrieving a session (i.e. windwos+tabs+ (possibly) forms) in case of a crash.... Which is obviuously very helpful (crashes, particularly in windo$ are out of control...) But sometimes (quite often for me) you might want to restore the last session EVEN IF YOU HAD A CLEAN EXIT... So you should really keep TWO stored sessions (buffers) at any time. 1) A "current session" (stored at runtime and not when you close the browser), which is not directly accessible. Just as a buffer to store current windows/tabs/forms. 2) A "last session" which is directly accessible at any time. This is basically the previous current session. It is quite simple: when you OPEN the browser, the last saved "current session", will replace the "last session". In this way the "last session" is available also when the browser is already opened and until you close it and reopen it (when a new "last session" will replace the old one). If you had only one "buffer" you could only open the "last session" when you first start up the browser, but not afterwards. This is a slight modification from the original plan that should make it much more flexible. Some nice add ons. A) In case of a non-clean exit, just pop-up a window asking if you want to restart from last time. B) Make the last session available somewhere (either under history, or bookmarks, or wherever you like) with the following options: -restore all windows in last session -restore specific window > submenu with list of windows Thanks and kudos for the excellent job so far

Parity with Opera is not a stated goal of the Firebird project and the presence of features in Opera has zero impact on the decisions made here. Please don't add information to the status whiteboard unless it is one of the standard status flags.

The comment by Mike Connor on 3/29 seems specious. Paraphrasing, "don't ever mention any other browser when commenting on a desireable thing to do in Moz." If comments about useful features observed elsewhere will be perforce ignored, let's all forget about it and go do something useful.

-ing, feature. We will likely do something like this after 1.0.

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Sorry for the dup Bug 243110, I did infact search before, but seem to have missed this one... (couldn't believe nobody had reported this anyway;). However postponing to after 1.0 seems a bit late IMHO (for such a now-standard feature) - couldn't you add an UI for the "user_pref("browser.startup.page", 2);" in 0.9, without all the fancy (restore after crash, restore framesets etc.) ? Thanks and keep up the great work!

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I want you all to know that I dropped Firefox because of this lack of feature. I find Mike Connor's comment rude in the extreme. I'm a long time Opera user who tried Firefox due to my geek friends telling me that it was the best open source option right now. I leave ~12-15 browser tabs open at any given time. Generally things I want to come back and read later. Having to manually open them on restart is totally unacceptable to me. Losing them on a crash is much, much worse, and is a total deal breaker. Just thought you all would want to know. -Robin; robin@teddyb.org

(In reply to comment #17) Well I can live with the following trick *for now*, but considering what killer-features (RSS-Bookmarks, total redesign of Find and Popup-Blocking etc.) where added for 1.0PR, I find it hard to believe this one can't make it into 1.0... As for the trick, you can either set the startup-page in the Options with "Use Current Pages" checked, or you file all open pages as a Bookmark on your Personal Toolbar-folder... not really foxy, but works,-)

I get the feeling that my comment was taken well out of context, but hey, that's prone to happen sometimes to people who don't know Bugzilla. I was removing a "parity-opera" status whiteboard entry, and by way of explanation noted that we're not trying for feature parity with Opera. Although I'm sure some people want a built in user style that emulates the Commodore 64... All joking aside, nothing I was saying was meant to be interpreted as "we're not going to do this" or "this is a stupid feature" but was solely relating to the bogus status whiteboard entry. I don't know if I'd use this feature, since I'm task oriented and finish with tabs before closing the app, but it does open up new possibilities for a large number of users.

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That's an excellent explanation. Thank you. In addition, as it turns out, Session Saver implements the "save your tabs" feature, and it stood up pretty well to forced crash testing (although not perfectly). I've started a page on migrating from Opera to Firefox, as I couldn't find one myself; see http://www.teddyb.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/opera_to_firefox.html It lists Session Saver as one of the plugins to install. -Robin

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