User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 Hello, I have two systems that are upgraded to Redhat 9.0, one is a pentium III 500 with 128 Bytes of Mem and the other is a PIII 800 with 128 Bytes of mem. I have had the same issue with both Mozilla 1.4b as well as on 1.4 rc1 and that is that when working in mozilla the hard drive churns when doing simple tasks. I shut down mozilla and there are still processes in ps auxw |grep mozilla. I kill -9 all processes and the churning stops. I have also found that if I walk away from the systems and go back after a while and attempt to use mozilla it takes minutes again for some read-write activity to finnish that appears to be related to the very moment that I click on the mozilla window. I could do any other process without this activity. I am now contemplating rolling back to Mozilla1.3 That is what I was running before upgrading to Redhat 9.0 and subsequently mozilla1.4. I have looked at free and noticed that as would be expected all memory is being sucked up. I have not done a strace on the process ids that mozilla is running as. I can do that if it would be of assistance to you folks. Let me know, I have always used this product and would like to see it not stifling my work days. If there have been any findings of conflicts with Redhat9.0, please let me know?? Thank you, Jon Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.walk away from computer or leave mozilla running for a long time 2.attempt to use mozilla 3.sit and wait for the hard drive to stop itself from self destructing Actual Results: I have to wait for up to five minutes for whatever processes that are happening in mozilla after running for a long period of time to stop. no other processes are using resources like mozilla. Mozilla uses approx 40% memory accordinig to top when this is happening, however free shows all mem used and naturally swap is then accessed. Expected Results: opened, worked and caused no wait time! I have had this happen on several occasions when I have been using mozilla and attempt to go to another page and the drive starts going crazy. Again, I can go to the term window just fine to do other tasks such as run top. It is slow due to the drive access, however the other tasks work, mozilla doesn't until the drive stops. I have also had occasion that right clicking on a page in google.com will not open a page, then when I left click on the page and let it open a new window (the setting that I have selected in google.com) two windows appear. I can not recreate this, it has happened only once. However it is just as strange as the drive access issue mentioned above

Symptoms of a machine with not enough RAM.... Is this a valid report?

I'm going to invalidate this one. RH9 recommended RAM is 192MB for "graphical mode" http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ Since you have 128, your system is probably swapping before mozilla is even running. Running Mozilla (any ver) is going to make the problem worse, as it has its own memory requirements too.

I'm sorry, I mispoke the Pentium III 500 has 256 Megs of ram. The laptop has only 128. Per Redhat's specs: http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ *CPU:* Minimum: Pentium-class Recommended for Text Mode: 200 Megahertz Pentium-class or better Recommended for Graphical Mode: 400 Megahertz Pentium-class or better *Hard Disk Space*:* Custom installation (minimum): 475 MB Personal Desktop: 1.7 GB Workstation: 2.1 GB Custom installation (everything): 5.0 GB *Additional space will be required for file storage. *Memory Requirements:* minimum for text mode: 64MB minimum for graphical mode: 128 MB recommended for graphical mode: 192 MB The 128 is the minimum, this is starting to sound like a Microsoft type of issue. Since when does any Unice require such amounts of memory? And if I shut down Mozilla the available memory opens up. Seems that Redhat is trying to take into account that there are some apps that are starting to suck up more then their share of mem requirements. I wouldn't close this case, I would work on streamlining the product so that it is better then the others rather then status quo... So, this machine has more then the recommended Memory as well as there is a problem Let's look at free before shutting down mozilla: [root@platypus grub]# free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 125992 123752 2240 0 4060 35620 -/+ buffers/cache: 84072 41920 Swap: 264592 236332 28260 Then after shutting it down: [root@platypus grub]# free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 125992 89536 36456 0 2248 35728 -/+ buffers/cache: 51560 74432 Swap: 264592 212812 51780 Then restarted mozilla: [root@platypus grub]# free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 125992 123452 2540 0 2396 46188 -/+ buffers/cache: 74868 51124 Swap: 264592 213400 51192 Jon

That "free" command indicates a system with 128MB, which is not enough to run KDE/Gnome + Mozilla well. Anyway, duping to a footprint tracking bug. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 92580 ***