Closed Bug 217258 Opened 21 years ago Closed 20 years ago

Adaptive (Bayesian) filters setting is per account but looks global in Junk mail controls window

Categories

(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, enhancement)

enhancement
Not set
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

RESOLVED WORKSFORME

People

(Reporter: mozilla2, Assigned: mscott)

References

Details

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030816 Mozilla Firebird/0.6.1+ Build Identifier: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.1a (20030723) The adaptive (Bayesian) filters setting is currently set per account and not on a global basis. The Junk Mail Controls window does not reflect this, leading some users to think it is a global setting and not realise they need to enable it for all accounts they wish to. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open the Junk Mail Controls window and look at the Adaptive Filters tab Expected Results: Either the adaptive filters need to be made global, or its UI needs to be moved into the Settings tab. Mozilla MailNews bug 205883 is related to this, and Scott has produced a rough spec for Thunderbird at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/junkmail/junkmail.html, but this doesn't address this particular issue.
Oops - I've just found it in the release notes: "Turning on junk mail adaptive filter detection is a per account preference (Tools / Junk Mail Controls / Adaptive Filters). However the UI makes it look like it is a global setting. To turn it on for several accounts, click on the Settings tab, change the account menu list to the right account then go back to the Adaptive Filter panel and make the decision to enable or disable automatic junk detection."
QA Contact: asa
Francis Chin, what do you want to do about this bug? Your comment 1 makes it sound like you should have marked this Resolved|Invalid but perhaps you want to change this somehow to a request for enhancement?
I haven't found any other bug which asks for this to be fixed, only the mention in the release note (which few people read). A change still needs to be made to either the UI or the functionality so I think we should keep this open as an enhancement bug to track this requirement (and avoid dupes).
Severity: normal → enhancement
Could you be more specific? I disagree that "the UI makes it look like it is a global setting" -- there is an account dropdown box at the very top of the dialog -- but I do agree that isn't the best dialog design I've ever seen. You should say exactly what you want changed, and how. Provide an image of a sample UI, for instance.
Mike, I can see why you disagree with me if your UI is different to mine - but please see the build ID of my original comment before you jump to conclusions. I have Thunderbird 0.2 which *does not* have an account dropdown box at the very top. I'd readily accept having this bug marked as invalid if the latest builds have fixed the issue. I *have* said exactly what I want changed, in my original comment, under where it says Expected results. It won't make sense if your TB UI is different, but at the time of writing it was correct. I have not yet upgraded, but then I don't always have the time to continually research the latest and greatest... If you know it's fixed, then say so! It is clear enough from the bug summary what should be achieved by a redesign. In any case, it is better for the user/customer to specify what they want from a solution instead of the actual solution itself - the designer may have a far better/more appropriate solution than the user/customer can foresee.
*** Bug 257951 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
The Junk mail controls are mailbox specific and make the user select which mailbox they mean anyway. Why not combine this dialog into the other tabs that are used to configure mailboxes under "Account Settings" (E.g."Server Settings" , "Copies and Folders"). Just add a Junk MAil Controls child element to that list. Seems like a much more intuitive way to handle the controls. For that matter i believe that message fileter are also managed in yet another dialog that make you select the account too. Is anyone in favor of a unified management dialog that elegantly solves these management problems? I will happily provide some mockups if there is interest...
Thunderbird 0.7 does indeed have the account-selector dropdown on the Junk Mail Controls page, so I'mmarking this bug WFM against the original report. Bug 205883 is about reworking the Junk Control dialog. Bug 180087 is explicitly about moving the dialog's settings into an Account Settings page for Mail/News. See also bug 219138.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 20 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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