User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 Firefox/0.8.0+ Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 Firefox/0.8.0+ When I open http://sonique.lycos.com , there is a gap at the top of the page. This bug did not exist in mozilla 1.6 Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Open http://sonique.lycos.com 2.Notice the big gap at the top of the page Actual Results: there is a big gap at the top of the page. Expected Results: there shouldn't be a big gap at the top of the page

See http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://sonique.lycos.com it gives a fatal error Fatal Error: No DOCTYPE specified! but somehow it used to render correctly in firefox0.8 (1.6)

Can somebody confirm this ?

confirming firefox 20040409 trunk

Where's the minimal testcase people? Without a minimal testcase a layout bug can't be fixed (and shouldn't be set to NEW in most cases).

simplified testcase attached

Hussam, thank you for the testcase. Bernard, please read http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=ac50fff3f060ead7 Bernd, didn't we recently make empty tables like that actually display, whereas they used not to? Should we just evangelize this site, or should we make not displaying them a quirk?

Ok, I got some input about this from a couple of people. what's happening here is that after opening the table, there are some script elements. Firefox0.8 closes the table right after those script elements whereas firefox0.8 (1.6 ) did not. Hence, the rest of the page is not being included in the table because the table is now closed.

> Firefox0.8 closes the table right after those script elements whereas > firefox0.8 (1.6 ) did not. Er... you're talking about the same browser version there? Looks like this table-closing issue is what we need a testcase for?

(In reply to comment #8) sorry I meant 0.8+ (1.7 ) and firefox 0.8 (1.6)

Ah, ok. Note that I doubt that our parsing changed here (which is what comment 7 claims to have happened; that's why I'd love to see a testcase showing that comment to be correct).

(In reply to comment #8) After thinking about this, the table closing issue seems to be another bug, so I think the testcase attached is valid. If you view the testcase in firebird0.8 (1.6), the empty table won't shove the the rest of the page down.

Right. Per standards it SHOULD shove it all the way down. The only question is whether we want to violate standards in this case, and if so how.

This was also an issue on Mozilla 1.6!!

This bug also creates a large gap on http://www.girlpaladin.com/introverts.html. (I made a testcase and it was essentially the same as the one here.)

fixed by checkin for bug 241161 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 241161 ***