A number of patches already address this in places. once these land, do a quick audit and remove where its bogus.

Should this bug not be exclusively about Linux: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwue/html/ch14d.asp There should be no ellipses for * File -> Page Setup * View -> Toolbars -> Customize * Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks * Tools -> Options * Manage Search Engines

Why should there not be an ellipsis for File -> Page Setup? It opens a dialog... I would really like to switch to using a real ellipsis character instead of three consecutive dots... the typography of a real ellipsis is subtly different in terms of kerning.

(In reply to comment #2) > Why should there not be an ellipsis for File -> Page Setup? It opens a > dialog... Because the ellipsis doesn't indicate a dialog being opened but further input being required in order to complete the original action (see e.g. the "Ellipses" section at the link from comment #1) and there's no need for further input before the user can set the page up.

And to be as difficult as possible, for Mac there should be an ellipsis for things like page setup and toolbar customization, and even for things that will always put up a confirmation alert: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGText/chapter_13_section_3.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000365-TPXREF126 (Which also threatens you with being inaccessible if you don't use a genuine ellipsis.)

And, the third oar: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/menus-design.html#menu-item-type-command Which fortunately agrees with Windows about "only if it *requires* further input, not if you might just want to look at what you have set up for paper size, and not for confirmation alerts."

(In reply to comment #4) > And to be as difficult as possible, for Mac there should be an ellipsis for > things like page setup and toolbar customization, and even for things that > will always put up a confirmation alert: This could possibly be solved by using a special entity, e.g. &hellip.confirm; that is defined as "…" on Mac and as "" on Windows.

As of 20080107 Firefox trunk nightly, here is a list, probably incomplete as I don't have access to a Mac (and only correct on windows and gnome): Main window:File menu Page Setup... sounds fishy. I'm not sure if this needs an ellipsis or not. Main window:View menu Toolbars > Customize... shouldn't have an ellipsis Character Encoding > Customize List... shouldn't have an ellipsis Main window:History menu Show All History... shouldn't have an ellipsis Main window:Bookmarks Show All Bookmarks... shouldn't have an ellipsis Main window:Tools menu Options... shouldn't have an ellipsis (Windows only) Main window:Help menu Check for Updates... shouldn't have an ellipsis Places Organizer window:Import and Backup menu Backup... should be written Back Up... Restore...> shouldn't have an ellipsis (it's a submenu for god's sake!) Prefs window:Content pane Exceptions... shouldn't have an ellipsis Exceptions... shouldn't have an ellipsis Advanced... shouldn't have an ellipsis Advanced... shouldn't have an ellipsis Colors... shouldn't have an ellipsis Prefs window:Privacy pane Exceptions... shouldn't have an ellipsis Show Cookies... shouldn't have an ellipsis Settings... shouldn't have an ellipsis Prefs window:Security Exceptions... shouldn't have an ellipsis Exceptions... shouldn't have an ellipsis Show Passwords... shouldn't have an ellipsis Settings... shouldn't have an ellipsis Prefs window:Advanced pane, Network tab Settings... shouldn't have an ellipsis

Since this is the kind of thing that will have a tendency to re-offend, can we have a test, once it's finished? Something like: grep -Rq '\.\.\.' * ... from browser/locales/en-US/ maybe? (Return code is 0 if there's a match, non-zero if there isn't) When I tripped up a while ago, reed caught me, but (all present evidence to the contrary) "reed caught me" doesn't scale. Currently on trunk that test finds 8 occurrences, all in comments.

Johnathan, this bug isn't about three dots vs. the unicode character (bug 373623) but the ellipsis being used where it shouldn't be used. While we're at it, I think the downdload manager search field's emptytext shouldn't have an ellipsis.

>View -> Toolbars -> Customize Actually, this one should still have an ellipsis, since the action (customizing) doesn't really happen until the user makes a change in the next dialog. Also without an ellipsis, it sounds like the action will be taken immediately. A better example of this in applications is "Filter" versus "Filter..."

(based on the OS X guidelines, which are better because they add that extra exception). I think we should actually be using that specific guideline on Windows as well.