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Bug 25742
Opened 25 years ago
Updated 4 years ago
no DND on right button (no right-dragging with menu popup)
Categories
(Core :: DOM: Copy & Paste and Drag & Drop, defect, P5)
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NEW
Future
People
(Reporter: Marko.Macek, Unassigned)
References
Details
mozilla doesn't have Windows-style right button Drag&Drop where menu is
displayed (unless ctrl/alt/shift pressed) to ask the user what operation to
perform.
Comment 1•25 years ago
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This would have to wait for DND to be working at all, see bug 10981, "[FEATURE]
Drag and drop hookup", M16.
Marko.Macek@gmx.net, where would this be useful, and what choices would
be on the menu?
Assigning all open "nobody@mozilla.org" bugs to "leger@netscape.com" to weed
thru.
Assignee: nobody → leger
Comment 3•25 years ago
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moving to XPApps, as it depends on bug 10981
Assignee: leger → don
Component: Browser-General → XPApps
QA Contact: nobody → paulmac
Updated•25 years ago
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QA Contact: paulmac → elig
Comment 7•24 years ago
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gotta love those bugs with owners and qa contacts who have been gone for awhile.
Assignee: slamm → ben
Component: XP Apps → XP Apps: GUI Features
QA Contact: elig → sairuh
Target Milestone: M21 → ---
Comment 8•24 years ago
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Unless (a) there is a use for this anywhere in Mozilla, and (b) there is a
workable equivalent for Mac OS, this should be WONTFIX. Menus popping up on a
drag-and-drop are evil.
Comment 9•24 years ago
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I disagree, I think this is a really cool feature. If a platform doesn't have a
right mouse button, then they don't have to have this feature.
Updated•24 years ago
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QA Contact: sairuh → tpreston
Comment 10•24 years ago
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Netscape nav triage team: per Alec Flett's pre-triage recommendation, this
bug is nsbeta1-.
Keywords: nsbeta1-
Comment 12•24 years ago
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Marking nsbeta1- bugs as future to get off the radar
Target Milestone: --- → Future
Comment 13•24 years ago
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IMO, right-dragging should be reserved for gestures and should not used for
context-menu dragging. See bug 49844 for 4.x-style gestures and bug 76537 for
Opera-style gestures.
Adding two bugs that this blocks:
bug 64177 context menu with "create active desktop item(s) here" when dragging
to desktop
bug 19922 RFE: dialog to edit bookmark title after right-dragging (or control-
dragging) page proxy to bookmark button or sidebar
Comment 14•24 years ago
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In bug 19922 timeless@mac.com said
> drag and drop is not supposed to let you do inline changes, it doesn't
> fit w/ the concept.
Above, Matthew Thomas said
> Menus popping up on a drag-and-drop are evil.
Is there any UI usability resource available on the web that would provide
the information needed for someone to properly understand those statements?
Comment 15•24 years ago
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I agree with alecf. I'm not sure about usability resources, but i'm pretty sure
you could find microsoft's spec explaining that they want this.
Some features are implemented because the OS requires them (MacOS will get drag
and drop to finder's Trash can, but we probably won't support that on windows
because of spec differences), this should be the same.
Comment 16•24 years ago
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Here you go.
| [Description of inconsistencies in drag-and-drop of files in Windows,
| inconsistencies which have the result that ...]
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| The only way to be sure of what will happen when dragging a file is to
| perform a right-click-and-drag; in that case, Explorer will ask you what you
| want to do after dragging. The only problem with that is that the
| right-click-and-drag is perhaps the *least* intuitive operation ever
| conceived in interface design. Not only is it physically awkward, it simply
| would never occur to anyone to even try it.
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<http://iarchitect.com/explore.htm#EXP2>
Reporter | ||
Comment 17•23 years ago
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| The only problem with that is that the
| right-click-and-drag is perhaps the *least* intuitive operation ever
| conceived in interface design. Not only is it physically awkward, it simply
| would never occur to anyone to even try it.
Well, it depends on habits.... For OS/2 users, there is only drag/drop on the
right mouse button (but there is no popup menu with it -- good IMO)
I must say that the OS/2 WPS is still the only file manager ever that could get
me away from command line. The reason is a very nice binding for mouse buttons
that is totally superior to windows one (mac is inferior because of it's single
mouse button).
The bindings are:
left button:
- click OR drag is used for selection (you can simply drag with a button
pressed over a few items in the list/icon view and they will be selected). There
is no drag/drop on the left mouse button.
- double click activates the object
- alt+click activates rename function. There is no *stupid* "slowly click
twice on a file" to rename it (if the user is too fast it will launch something
instead of activating in-place rename).
right button:
- click shows the context menu
- draggging activates DND code (there is no menu unlike windows)
This has two major advantages over Windows:
- easy selection of multiple items
- no drag/drop mistakes when double clicking !!! I can't tell how often I
moved something by accident in the explorer tree view while trying to open a folder.
I want mozilla/XUL to be flexible enough so the above bindings can be
configured. It doesn't have to be part of the default prefs.
Reporter | ||
Comment 18•23 years ago
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updating summary to make it clearer
Summary: no DND on right button (with menu popup) → allow DND with right mouse button (with optional menu popup)
Updated•23 years ago
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Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Comment 19•22 years ago
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Marko, the OS/2 issue is covered by bug 137782, "Drag drop is hardcoded to mouse
button 1". Making this bug depend on 137782 even though I think it should be
wontfixed.
Comment 21•21 years ago
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Mass reassign of my non-Firefox bugs to ben_seamonkey@hotmail.com
Assignee: bugs → ben_seamonkey
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Comment 22•20 years ago
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Tweaking the summary to make this bug easier to find.
Prog.
Summary: no DND on right button (with menu popup) → no DND on right button (no right-dragging with menu popup)
Updated•18 years ago
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Assignee: ben_seamonkey → nobody
QA Contact: pmac
Updated•16 years ago
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QA Contact: drag-drop
Comment 23•4 years ago
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Bulk-downgrade of unassigned, >=5 years untouched DOM/Storage bugs' priority and severity.
If you have reason to believe this is wrong, please write a comment and ni :jstutte.
Severity: normal → S4
Priority: P3 → P5
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