Scroll bar to scroll a msg should work without having to place focus in msg pane again This is a regression from the Beta1 build. I use this feature all the time so I know :-) Win32 2000-03-27-09-m15 Your Inbox has a few long messages. 1) Start mail 2) Open Inbox 3) Select first message 4) Click in the message pane to place focus there. 5) Press scroll bar to scroll the message. 6) Press Delete or click Delete toolbar 7) Message is deleted and next message loads 8) Press scroll bar to scroll the message Actual results: nothing happens. You have to click on the message pane again to scroll Expected results: message should scroll. I'm comparing this behavior to what we had in beta 1.

Last step should be "press space bar to scroll the message"

Scott, I think you are the lucky owner of a brand new, slightly used bug :-) Marking M16 to get this in beta2. If that's wrong, please correct.

I highly doubt this will make beta2 if I'm the one supposed to be fixing this.

*** Bug 46037 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Same holds true for page up and page down (and, presumably, arrow keys if they also scroll the mail window).

nominating nsbeta3 polish

*** Bug 41220 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

yippee :-)

+ per mail triage

reassigning to varada.

P2 per mail triage

second pass: - per mail triage

As long as everyone knows this is an accessibility issue -- this bug means that you need a mouse in order to see anything beyond the first page of a message.

Yes, we know that. Unfortunately, we have a few keyboard accessible type of bugs that we won't be addressing. It's hard when we have to make trade-offs on bugs to fix.

This was fixed when tabbing was fixed for bug#28520. Since the default focus is on the message pane now- deleting while in the message pane automatically takes you to the next message and places the focus in the message pane.

Nope. If I click on a message in the thread pane, then hit spacebar, it doesn't scroll down. If I then hit the delete key to delete the current message and go to the next message, spacebar still doesn't scroll down. So it doesn't work for either keyboard or mouse navigation.

sorry for the extra email. Removing mail2 keyword.

I'm experiencing the same problems in linux on build 2001011008.

as mentioned in bug triage meeting yesterday, am nominating spacebar navigation related bugs.

marking nsbeta1-.

*** Bug 69373 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

If space is "pgdn even when the thread pane has focus", will shift+space (bug 70153) and/or backspace (bug 36922) be "pgup even when the thread pane has focus"? (I suppose delete will remain reserved for "delete message".) Btw, this bug doesn't prevent keyboard-only users from using Mail, since Tab works fine to focus the message pane from the thread pane and since B/F/(N/P) for next/prev (unread) message works fine when the message pane has focus.

*** Bug 54628 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

No, Page Up and Page Down should retain their usual meanings -- scroll the currently-focused pane, without moving the caret/selection. Space and Shift+Space are `secret' (non-advertised) shortcuts, so it doesn't matter that their behavior is inconsistent with that of Page Down and Page Up.

Works for me in RC2 After delete message, the message pane still have focus.

WFM with focus in folder pane, thread pane, and message pane.

marking verified worksforme in current branch & trunk