(In reply to bug 350690 comment 85) > (In reply to bug 350690 comment 80) > > (In reply to bug 350690 comment 77) > > > > > I like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=237225 more than > > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=237224, as I like having just > > > the selected tab be lighter. > > > > I agree that having the selected tab lighter is good, but not at the expense of > > having the background tabs disappear into the tabstrip. One of the goals of the > > redesign of the tabstrip was to have the background tabs (on both platforms) be > > visually distinct from the tabstrip - I feel they're too transparent in the > > first one. > > From the screenshots I had agreed with Seth, but after testing on Linux I think > I agree with Jay. I actually can't easily tell where my background tabs are or > how many I have with the current patch on this. I then tried testing with the > dialog color behind everything, but I think I screwed up the patch, because it > didn't do what I wanted :). So I'd like to see a patch that puts the dialog > color behind everything; I think that would perhaps be better. I think this needs re-evaluation, as the tabstrip's background images was changed afterwards (bug 350689).

Apparently removing the background color makes background tabs *more* distinct from the tabstrip.

The "screenshots with tabstrip" shot makes me a little anxious, as this change doesn't seem to play quite as nicely there as in your first pair of shots, but that first pair is a definite win. As long as this improves things on all background colors (make sure to test on black/dark backgrounds), I'd say it should go in. Then again, my opinion doesn't count for anything on this one, as I'm not even really contributing anymore, let alone a UI reviewer!

The darker the background the lesser should this change make a difference. (black means no difference at all.)

The original goal was to make background tabs more distinct from the active tab. To this, I add to bring Winstripe a bit closer to what mconnor plans for Pinstripe: http://steelgryphon.com/blog/?p=105

tiny fix for some of the images. not updating the screenshot, as I don't think anybody would see the difference ;)

Comment on attachment 269591 [details] screenshot: after This is mostly there, but the removal of the outline on background tabs now results in there being too much empty space between background tabs. I like the darkening and removal of the white outline and the reduction in tab height, but keep the width the same.

Comment on attachment 276951 [details] screenshot: after Nice. Very nice.

would somebody please check this in?

This patch no longer applies cleanly, can you post an updated version please.

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The darker frame is after the polish.

maybe also interesting for others: <stevee> for me it has made it harder to distinguish between inactive tabs and the tabbar <stevee> and also the tab dropdown is harder to notice? <dao> well, we have only one color to play with (-moz-dialog) <dao> if you extend the contrast between the active tab and background tabs, that lowers the contrast between background tabs and the tab strip <dao> that's not ideal, but not particularly a usability problem IMHO <stevee> hmm.. just feels like it's been dulled more than 'polished' for me on win2k <dao> it's not literally polished, just revised