In current Mozilla builds, if an image isn't displayed and the alt text doesn't fit in the specified (by the width & height attributes) image size, the alt text gets truncated. This is a serious accessibility problem, since we're not displaying the alt text as a tooltip, either (which is correct). The most obvious solution to this problem is an "Always expand alt texts for images" option in the preferences (see IE4/5 for Windows, Options/Advanced).

Ian is probably the QA Contact for this one, since we're dealing with alt texts. Also nominating nsbeta3 and adding '4xp' keyword since competitors have this feature.

You will be glad to learn that it got fixed in the past couple of days. We now have the following behaviors: Mac IE5 / Win IE5: The alt text is truncated if it can't be displayed within the boundaries. The broken image icon is always displayed. Mac Nav4x / Win Nav4x: The alt text and the broken image icon don't show at all if the width/height are too small to display them entirely. When there is no specified width/height, they are displayed correctly. Moz Mac/Win 2000-06-06: It doesn't make any difference to specify a width/height. When the image is broken, it displays the entire alt text (no truncation) or the image name (ie. "plouc" for "plouc.jpg"). There is no broken-image icon.

In my opinion however, the bug as originally described is invalid. We should behave like IE5. I don't understand why you mention accessibility problems: alt texts are for the blind and non-visual browsers, well, ignore the width/height and read the entire alt text without truncating it. Similarly if a speach module is implemented on top of a CSS-aware visual browser like MacIE5 or Moz, it is possible to put an important rule in UA.css that sets the width/height/margins of image elements to 'auto'. Overall, I think that we should: - always display a small (broken?) image icon - truncate the alt text (or the image name) if the specified width/height are too small - display the entire alt text (or image name) if there is no specified width/ height Changed title from "alt texts must be shown even if they won't fit in image size" to "issues with broken images". Reassigned to buster. CCd dbaron. David and Ian: your comments are welcome. I personally have no experience with non-visual browsers, nor speach modules on top of visual browsers.

I wasn't talking specifically about _broken_ images, but generally about images which aren't loaded for whatever reason - alt texts are also meant for graphical browsers with image loading turned off. An easy-to-reproduce example: 1) Go to Preferences > Advanced > Cookies and Images 2) Select Do not load any images 3) Go to www.w3.org 4) Read the name of the site: "The World Wide". Other informative alt texts on the page include "M", "IN", "K" and "CI". :-P So we need an option to enlarge all image frames to fit all of the alt text. It's probably not wise to do this by default, since the layout on some sites rely on exact specified image sizes - so I propose the IE-like option. Opera has another solution to this problem: three image loading modes. 1) Load and show all images; don't show alt text at all. 2) Show already loaded images, but don't load any more. Show alt text for unloaded images; preserve the specified image size even if the alt text gets truncated. 3) Don't show any images. Ignore specified image sizes, just show the complete alt text. This has some advantages for power users, but IE's simpler approach is probably closer to our goals. Any opinions, Ian & David? Rewrote the summary again. Sorry, Pierre - I guess my original report wasn't clear enough.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 34981 ***

Verified Duplicate.

Removing '4xp' keyword since the keyword description doesn't mention competitor products anymore.