User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9pre) Gecko/2008050504 Minefield/3.0pre Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9pre) Gecko/2008050504 Minefield/3.0pre It fine either way if finally this won't be fixed. But in 10.4 Tiger, unfocused windows are not supposed to change color so dramatically. I know this is caused by patching of bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406730 , but OS integration means IF POSSIBLE, and NOT TOO DIFFICULT, we should always respect hosting OS. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.open firefox 2.click desktop to move focus away from firefox 3. Actual Results: the titlebar, toolbar, whole UI become wash-out white color Expected Results: shouldn't change color in Tiger. I don't think this is criminally important, however, the other bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432131 is indeed important

Comparing with other applications really shows that the difference is too hard. With Safari I'm even not able to see a difference between the active and inactive state. But no idea, if this could be done. CC'ing Alex and Kevin who could give more information.

So... what can we do to resolve this bug? It looks like there are several alternatives: (1) Don't change anything. Firefox looks like a Leopard application - why shouldn't that apply for the inactive state as well? (2) Remove the wash-out effect on Tiger by having the "active" attribute set all the time. I don't like this because it would restrict possibilities for themers. (3) Make the default theme do different things on Tiger. I don't think this is possible - the theme can't differentiate between 10.4 and 10.5, can it? (4) Create a new default theme for Tiger. Definitely too late for that. (5) Wait for somebody else to create a 3rd-party theme for Tiger. Probably the best solution for now - the number of 10.4 users is decreasing, and those who care can just install such a theme. (I happen to have started to work on such a theme myself; see also bug 432407.)

(In reply to comment #2) > Created an attachment (id=319534) [details] > Screenshot of active and inactive CSSEdit windows on Tiger > its better we compare with iTunes or safari, since we are talking about brushed metal. for them, inactive status does not change anything except the color of scroll bar and the three buttons on the top left corner of the window frame. I actually think its cool for firefox to bring Tiger users the feeling of leopard. Downside is it make more excuses for people who complain that firefox is not "totally mac", which I don't care at all. So, just a report, fixed or not, Im fine either way. just fix that delay problem mentioned in my original post.

> (3) Make the default theme do different things on Tiger. > I don't think this is possible - the theme can't differentiate between > 10.4 and 10.5, can it? It should be possible to differentiate the sidebar colors by making them nsLookAndFeel colors (white background on tiger that doesn't change) and then serve different background-images in inactive state depending on OS version. Something have to be done with he titlebar as well (but I think that's possible).

Firefox 3.0 shipped this way, Firefox 3.5 will ship this way, and OS X 10.4 is becoming less and less important, might even be unsupported in the future. -> wontfix