...on both the Commercial & Mozilla builds for Mac OS, each time you open a new window, the Help menu's items below "Show Balloons" comprise: "b" "Blank Menu Item" "Blank Menu Item" "Blank Menu Item" ----------------- "Blank Menu Item" "Blank Menu Item" "Blank Menu Item" ----------------- "Blank Menu Item" After ~10 seconds on a 450 Mhz G4, the "real" menu item appears.

Putting on [nsbeta2-] radar. Not critical to beta2.

Copying Ian... Ian, is this yours, or do you know who should own this? Thanks.

Please note that: * It can often take several minutes until the actual menu items appear. I'm not sure if a series of user actions are necessary to make it appear; if so, I can't identify them. * Selecting the "b" menu item results in a nasty crash in the Bowels of the Memory Manager, which results in the entire Mac requiring a restart. (all other applications crash on launch thereafter.) I'm removing nsbeta2- for reconsideration.

...please note that the Mozilla build only includes two instances of "Blank menu item", and doesn't include the Nasty Crashing 'B'.

Adding crash keyword. Putting on [nsbeta2+] radar for beta2 fix. The + is to only stop the crash. Who is going to fix this?

Thanks Mike!

i put in a small patch in the menu code to try to prevent he b's from being selectable so now it can't crash. this bug is really an overlay bug and so isn't my domain. saari is looking into this, so i'll push this to him. removing crash keyword and beta2+ status for recharacterization.

Putting on [nsbeta2-] radar. Not critical to beta2. No longer crashes.

rudman rocks! he noted that clicking to finder and back to netscape results in the menu actually drawing the correct menu items.

eli, we knew this all along ;)

i'm sure you capricious coder-geeks were cognizant that. we black box browser boys are occasionally oblivious to such things.

I thought Pinkerton's comment meant that he and others knew that I rock. I hope he feels that way, heh heh, when I come to talk to him about how tooltips are implemented ono the Mac (greyed out items should still get tooltips). ABOUT THIS BUG: I've seen a 3rd behavior regarding the Help menu---maybe that's known too. In one session, I saw just Release Notes and About under Help...as if the overlay wasn't in effect. Known problem? If not, I'll try to reproduce. (I think the Print Plus item didn't show up in the File menu as well...also related to the same overlay, according to Ian.)

qa assigning open/resolved help bugs to paw

spam: mass-moving currently open help bugs to Terri, who now does qa on 'em. :)

I don't think we've seen this in a while

Works for me