Jeff Rankine Reporter
	Description • 24 years ago

From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)
BuildID:    M17+

There should be another skin included with Mozilla in addition to "Modern" 
and "Classic" called "Native" which maintains the target platform's Look-And-
Feel as closely as possible.  A side-effect is there would be a version of this 
skin for each target platform.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Mozilla
2. Open preferences
3. Try to switch to a Native skin ;)

Actual Results:  Nothing.							

Expected Results:  There should have been a listing for a native skin.

	Jeffrey Baker
	Comment 1 • 24 years ago

Enhancement request already noted.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 39375 ***

	Matthew T (active 1999-2002)
	Comment 2 • 24 years ago

Nah, this isn't a dup of bug 39375. Bug 39375 is tracking the progress of the 
native widgets, which are currently used in the Classic skin. This bug is asking 
for a skin to use those widgets. Therefore ...

	Matthew T (active 1999-2002)
	Comment 3 • 24 years ago

... This is INVALID, because the Classic skin is already using the native-looking 
widgets. And yes, the Classic skin is different on each target platform.

If there are things in the Classic skin which don't match the native look and 
feel of your chosen particular platform, please file them as separate bugs.

	Jeff Rankine Reporter
	Comment 4 • 24 years ago

The classic skin is not the same thing.  It doesn't adhere to standard UI 
paradigms on Windows, e.g. grippies.  Therefore this is not INVALID. There 
should be a skin that closely adheres to Windows (and other platforms) UIs.

	Brendan Donohoe Assignee
	Comment 5 • 24 years ago

That is what the Classic skin is FOR.  If there are issues with the Classic 
skin not adhering to platform standards, file bugs on the Classic skin.  It 
is ABSOLUTELY intended to be as close to individual platform standards 
as possible.

	Christopher Cook
	Comment 6 • 24 years ago

The classic skin addresses only the aspects of recreating the N4.x look, it 
does not implement all of the UI aspects currently associated with a Windows 
interface (i.e latest MFC style of toolbars as exhibited by Office/Internet 
Explorer). Depending on how strongly you feel about how an app should look 
under a particular platform you'll think more or less of this bug (more a 
feature request really), that does not make it invalid. 

	Matthew T (active 1999-2002)
	Comment 7 • 24 years ago

The Classic skin's grippies on Windows do not look the same as the latest MFC 
grippies because they do not work the same. The Mozilla grippies (rightly or 
wrongly) allow for toolbars to be collapsed, whereas the MFC ones do not. 
Conversely, the MFC grippies allow toolbars to be dragged around, whereas the 
Mozilla ones (currently) do not. So for the Classic and MFC grippies to look 
identical would be quite misleading, and harm the usability of both. Once the 
grippies act identically, then they can be changed to look identical, but not 
before.

If you have further concerns about how closely the Classic skin should follow (a) 
4.x conventions and (b) platform conventions, please comment in the `What do 
y'all think about Classic skin development?' thread in
<news:netscape.public.mozilla.ui>.

Verifying invalid.