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Bug 53309
Opened 24 years ago
Updated 2 years ago
Tooltips should display keyboard shortcuts
Categories
(Core :: DOM: UI Events & Focus Handling, defect, P3)
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Future
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(Reporter: jruderman, Unassigned)
References
(Depends on 3 open bugs, Blocks 1 open bug)
Details
(Keywords: access)
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(1 obsolete file)
Tooltips for buttons should display keyboard shortcuts. For example,
Reload Reload current page (Ctrl+R)
Stop Stop loading the current page (Esc)
Navigator (on "taskbar") Navigator (Ctrl+1)
Please move this to a milestone or two before NS6 so that it can be fixed as
the keyboard shortcuts themselves stabalize. Note that keyboard shortcuts
differ across platforms, but that problem has to be dealt with in menus anyway.
Comment 1•24 years ago
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I can't think of another application which does this, and I'm not sure if the
usefulness would outweigh the clutter.
Also, what do you do for commands which have more than one keyboard shortcut?
Reporter | ||
Comment 2•24 years ago
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Microsoft Word has this as an option (off by default), and it's always the
first option I change when I start using Word. On the other hand, a word
processor has more buttons, and its buttons aren't generally duplicated on
menus (where there's plenty of room for keyboard shortcuts to be listed). Word
processors are also generally more keyboard-oriented than browsers.
When there's more than one keyboard shortcut, there should be a flamewar in
which at least the following are brought up: which shortcut is more intuitive
(and thus easier to remember), which has been around longer or is also used by
other browsers/programs, and which is easier to hit for both left-handers and
right-handers.
Comment 4•24 years ago
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For Acessability reasons there will probably be in the near future, skins
allowing different shortcuts. If we impliment this here how will this effect
those skins. Just as an example, for those who require one stroke grouped
comands because of mobility reasons will have the option to use less intuitive
commands infavor of those they can physically reach. If implimenting
tooltiop shortcuts here hinders the other I would not think it buys much for the
cost.
Comment 5•24 years ago
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Lake, I hope you're joking. Keyboard shortcuts are part of chrome, and should not
be affected by skins, ever. If there are accessibility problems with keyboard
shortcuts that cannot be solved by Sticky Keys, then they should be fixed in the
chrome -- by (skin-independent) customization, if necessary.
To limit disabled users to a choice of a few skins, because they were the only
ones with the accessibility-friendly keyboard shortcuts, would be quite
discriminatory.
Having said that, I fail to see how that would affect the feasibility of this bug
one way or the other.
Comment 6•24 years ago
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No I was not jokeing, I don't joke about the dissabled. However I did
misunderstand a communication with others concerning this. Now I get it when
they were talking about making it a preference. (This is still in speculation
phase so don't go fileing bugs every one.)
And I was not trying to limit them but give then A viable option which they do
not currently have.
From your info It won't effect skins. And we will handle the other problems else
where.
mass-moving UI:Design Feedback bugs to hangas
Assignee: german → hangas
Comment 8•24 years ago
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Chaning the qa contact on these bugs to me. MPT will be moving to the
owner of this component shortly. I would like to thank him for all his hard
work as he moves roles in mozilla.org...Yada, Yada, Yada...
QA Contact: mpt → zach
Comment 10•23 years ago
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An example of a program that does this is Visual Studio.
It's one nice way of making keyboard shortcuts easily discoverable.
Keywords: access
Reporter | ||
Comment 11•23 years ago
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See also bug 81563, Context menus should include shortcut keys (wontfix).
Comment 14•22 years ago
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Future for now, because we don't have any way to get this information. If
xul/xbl key handling gets extended to add this capability (bug 71779), I'll pull
this one in.
Depends on: 71779
Target Milestone: --- → Future
Comment 15•22 years ago
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I think this should be wontfix because it would look lame and not be very
useful. If you want to see the keyboard shortcuts, look in the menus.
Updated•22 years ago
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Component: User Interface Design → Keyboard Navigation
QA Contact: zach → sairuh
Comment 16•22 years ago
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*** Bug 181186 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 17•22 years ago
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I like this as an idea to help a user get to know how to use their browser more
efficiently in a fairly unintrusive manner.
In addition to the Mozilla UI it might be nice to also display shortcuts in
tooltips for elements with access keys in a webpage. I realise that there is bug
56701 on underlining access keys, but I'm not sure that's a good way of doing
it. In common usage the access key often doesn't appear in the text (if there is
text, it could be an image link etc etc). A tooltip would be universally usable
for this purpose regardless of the content the accesskey applies to.
Eg http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/top_navigation/accesskeys.htm
Comment 18•21 years ago
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*** Bug 184743 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 19•20 years ago
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The patch displays the shortcuts along with tooltips for Back, Forward,Reload
and Stop buttons.
Comment 20•18 years ago
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*** Bug 341656 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 21•18 years ago
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This would be a valuable tool for learning the tool tips, there are probably shortcuts I could be using that I just don't know about. Is there a plug in that creates this behavior?
Comment 22•15 years ago
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Comment on attachment 183005 [details] [diff] [review]
shows shortcuts along with tooltips
Hardcoding the shortcut keys in browser.dtd's tooltip entities does not look like a sustainable approach, they should be retrieved dynamically from somewhere and added to the tooltip at runtime --> Patch attachment 183005 [details] [diff] [review] is obsolete.
I'd appreciate a confirmation from someone that I am doing the right thing in obsoleting this patch. :)
Attachment #183005 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Comment 23•15 years ago
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Akkana Peck (akzilla@...), is it still correct that you are assigned to this bug as per comment #13? If not, please let us know or change "assigned-to" accordingly.
Comment 24•15 years ago
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No, I'm definitely not the right assignee for this one.
Assignee: akkzilla → nobody
Updated•15 years ago
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QA Contact: bugzilla → keyboard.navigation
Comment 25•15 years ago
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Is this applicable to Windows OS only? Otherwise, please let me know, Platform and OS should be changed to "ALL".
Updated•13 years ago
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Blocks: tb-keyboard-tracker
Comment 26•11 years ago
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I'd like to make a comment to this one: Now, that the default policy of Thunderbird has changed to not showing the main menu bar, how many inexperienced users know how to open it again? So an inexperienced user will always use the buttons around or maybe thecontext menu nowadays, not a menu bar he can't see.
So I'd really like to see shortcuts in tooltips (and context menus, as mentioned in Bug 81563)
Assignee | ||
Updated•6 years ago
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Component: Keyboard: Navigation → User events and focus handling
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
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