As you might have seen in the newsgroups or on the Mozilla blog, there's a couple of changes to search engines planned for the 4.0 release for en-US: <http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.l10n/msg/81073d8d67e1c4c3>. We would like to use this opportunity to review the current productization setup for Romanian and make any changes that you think will be good for our users. What is a productization review? ================================ Here's what we're interested in: * search engines, * protocol handlers, * feed readers, * live bookmark. You can see what your locale currently ships with at <http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n/l10n-src-verification/file/default/reference/browser/2.0/ro> Please take a moment and review the choice of services available by default in your locale. If there have been any new services that have recently gained popularity and that offer good value for the users, please suggest adding them to your locale. On the other hand, if there are services that lost credibility (e.g. display too many adds) or have poor user experience, consider suggesting that we remove them. If in doubt, feel free to make a suggestion and we'll look at it together. You might find the guidelines at <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Productization> and <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Firefox/Productization> helpful, too. Required changes ================ There's two things I would like to draw your attention to (if applicable): 1) if you have a google.xml file in your `searchplugins` directory, please remove it, 2) Bloglines is closing down on November 1st and we need to remove it from the feed reader options for all locales (see bug 595485). We suspect that it will make sense to move Google Reader up to the first position (if your locale has it). We will be offering technical help with this change, either in form of ready-made patches or a mass-landing by one of the l10n-drivers. If you don't think that moving Google Reader up is a good idea for your locale, please let us know! Changes in en-US and en-GB ========================== Here's the changes that we will be making in en-US and en-GB: * add Bing as the 3rd general search engine (see bug 603298), * remove Answers, * remove Creative Commons. We're making these changes in en-US and en-GB because we feel that they follow the recent market trends and user preferences in the US and the UK. We would like to go through the same thought process for your locale and see if any of these changes would make sense in Romanian builds as well. If you decide that implementing these changes would be in your users' best interest then please go ahead and include them in the patch you'll attach to this bug. Implementation ============== Please make suggestions for changes and attach patches that Seth, Axel or I will review. Please note that since Bing provides a global plugin which does the locale detection itself, you will only need to add "bing" to your list.txt if you decide to include it. The XML file will be automatically pulled from en-US. Once a review is granted, you can land the patch on l10n-central if your locale actively maintains it. Otherwise, please wait for further instructions which will be put in the comments of this bug and announced in mozilla.dev.l10n (we're still unsure when the branching will happen). Please do not land any changes except for the required ones (google.xml, Bloglines) on 1.9.2. If you do not wish to make any changes, let us know, and we'll only work on removing Bloglines. Thanks!

The Bloglines change does not affect your locale. However, if you have any productization changes to make for Firefox 4, like the Bing suggestion listed in comment 0, please provide a patch to make that change on l10n-central. If there are not changes, just close this bug. Thank you.

Perhaps adding : Bing, Youtube, Facebook.

We probably won't include Facebook because, as far as I know, their service requires users to have a username and password to enter. For any non-Facebook users (if there are any), the service isn't really too useful.

(In reply to comment #3) > We probably won't include Facebook because, as far as I know, their service > requires users to have a username and password to enter. For any non-Facebook > users (if there are any), the service isn't really too useful. Yes, understanding. Other suggestion: Firefox Add-ons, IMDB.

We generally try to follow these guidelines for search providers in our localized builds: https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Firefox/Productization#Search I am not if Addons or IMDB fit those guidelines. It doesn't mean we cannot consider it, but we should try to focus in three areas: general purpose search, e-commerce search, and specific interest search.

Stas, removing Bloglines and having Bing for the Romanian locale is fine.

We are asking localizers to attach patches to the bug to do this work. Since removing bloglines was not a universal thing across all locales, we did not mass-land. Please provide a patch for 1.9.2 that does this and flag me for a review. For FF4, please attach a patch for l10n-central that also removes Bloglines and adds Bing to your list.txt file. Do you have any other productization changes? With this change, you will add one more searchplugin, bringing the number to 7. We suggested to many locales to remove Creative Commons if that is plugin doesn't provide any locally relevant content.

Ping, did you guys seem my comment #7? We need to close this bug soon. Please provide a patch for review.

Alex, perhaps you add Wikipedia (RO) , Facebook and Dex Online (http://dexonline.ro/unelte) for Romanian locale search engines.

Comment on attachment 514140 [details] [diff] [review] Added bing, removed creative commons Please land this change on l10n-central. After you have tested the nightly, please sign off and then close this bug. Thanks, Alexandru.

Added bing and went back to en-US version of region.properties.

I'm confused. A new review request and resolved FIXED?

I am also confused.

Hi Axel, The previous patch had the patch approved by Seth and the region.properties reverted to en-US. I've created a separate patch for region.properties that you can review.

Comment on attachment 521434 [details] [diff] [review] Revert to en-US version of region.properties (Basically just removed Netvibes because it's not in romanian anymore so it doesn't make sens to be first) This and bing landed as http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/ro/rev/c07138130676 (on central and 2.0, too). r=me and taking the sign-off on aurora, so fx5 will be the first release with this fix.