4.x had special icons for news and imap messages which had been downloaded for offline use. we need those for 6.5 now.

This may fit in here also... there would need to be an icon that shows whether a mail message has been cached on the local machine when using imap. MS Outlook has similar functionality.

what you describe is exactly what this bug is for - we only cache messages locally for offline use.

this is related to bug 22112

We're asking this late, but it would be great to have these for beta1. This would be a better solution in my opinion than making messages italicized.

Gail agreed to help me out with these short term. thanx gail!

Moving bug to Joe and marking 0.9.2, Joe has the icons from Gail.

Once the icons are available, this needs to go to an engineer so the icons are implemented correctly. Messages that have been downloaded locally should show the new icons, Not the italic text that is currently being used in the thread pane.

themes triage: moving to 0.9.3. P3

r=andreww

sr=bienvenu

a= asa@mozilla.org for checkin to the trunk. (on behalf of drivers)

fixed

So does this bug only get the icons checked in? Does a separate bug need to be filed to get the icons to appear correctly and to removed the italics?

86460 filed to remove italics.

So I am assuming since we still show the italics, that is the reason why icons do not appear? if this is correct, I am going to add a dependency on this bug to bug 86460. Since I can't verify this bug until the other one is fixed. If am incorrect on this assumpiton, please let me know.

I see different icons for downloaded messages using 2001061804 on Win 2000

The italics a totally separate issue. The icons are now correctly showing up for offline downloaded messages. I can confirm this with a 6/17 build.

Ok. My bad. I'll remove the dependency.. I am using 2001061804 on Nt 4.0 and it doesn't seem to work if you are in classic mode. Wasn't sure if I should reopen this bug or file a new bug that is based just on the classic theme. So I am Reopening bug for now. I have some comments with the offline icon in general. I downloaded a folder that had about 10 messages. I looked at the folder and couldn't tell it was downloaded (if not for italic mode). I clicked on another folder then clicked back and I still couldn't tell. Then I read Scott's comments that he can see it. So I did a double take and then I figured out the envelope color (white downloaded, gray if it's not). I asked a fellow coworker to see if he could tell if messages are downloaded or not. So he downloaded a folder and he mentioned the italic mode. He then mentioned different colored envelopes. But the only reason why he mentioned the envelope is one of the messages was > 50kb so it didn't get downloaded. If it wasn't for the bigger message not getting downloaded, he said he wouldn't have noticed. So would the average user notice? I don't think the icon sticks out enough. Another color? It's definitely better than the 4.x icon that showed if the message was downloaded or not. For longest time I didn't even know there was offline icon in 4.x. That icon was not noticeable at all. I guess not being part of the UI team or knowing what the actual icon would actually look like, I was under a different impression. I thought there was going to another column with some type of offline indicator symbol (whatever that might be). Not sure what others think or what the UI studies support. Just thought I would voice my opinion on it. Sorry for the Long Winded take....

It was done subtle on purpose. Anything that is local uses this different icon: messages in POP accounts, messages in local folders and messages that have been downloaded locally for IMAP accounts. If the indication was something more intrusive like italics or a red icon or something, this could potentially be displayed for a large majority of some users messages (or all a user's messages if they only had POP accounts). The goal was to have a more subtle indication, so that it wasn't distracting or confusing for users with a lot of local messages, or POP accts, etc., but still enough of a distinction for users to notice if they were interested in this feature.

Ok thanks for the clarification Jennifer.

If you feel they are too subtle, let me know.

This is a (somewhat bizarrely stretched) screenshot of Outlook 2000's download icon. I don't believe it's intrusive at all, and it gives a much more intuitive look at what happens when a message is downloaded. Note that the messages that are header-only have incomplete icons, and the ones that are completely downloaded have full envelopes. Personally I find this amazingly more useful than either 4.x's shaded/unshaded envelope or 6.1's white/gray envelope.

Soundn't this bug remain closed since this was implemented as designed? And keep discussion of the icon design in bug 86897?

That's fine Jennifer. I reopened the bug because if you switch to classic theme, the offline icon is not properly displayed. (Envelope is white if its downloaded or not). If you or Joe feel that this should be a new bug, I will file a new bug on it and then verify this bug.

Ah, ok. Thanks for clarification. Up to Joe if he wants a new bug for Classic issue.

Just curious on what the decision is with this bug since I reopened it. Since the icon doesn't seem to work in Classic mode did you want me to file a new bug? Or is it currently being worked on? Thanks.

I need to mark this fixed. It's a 0.9.2 bug which WAS fixed. If you wish to improve the actual icons, please open another bug.

Please re-read this comment. This bug is not fixed in Classic Skin. Reopening. >------- Additional Comments From gchan@netscape.com 2001-06-20 11:27 ------- > >That's fine Jennifer. I reopened the bug because >if you switch to classic theme, the offline >icon is not properly displayed. (Envelope is >white if its downloaded or not). If you or Joe >feel that this should be a new bug, I will file a new bug >on it and then verify this bug.

Moving to 0.9.3 to keep on radar.

Another question. Originally when David created this bug it was intended for both mail and news. The fix was only applied to imap mail. Do we need to open a seperate bug for news? Or when this gets fixed in 9.3, it will be applied to both mail and newsgroups. Also it would have to be applied in classic theme also.

Please fill a separate bug for news icons. Icons need to be created first. Thanks.

ooops forgot to add the news icon bug is bug 88970.

Removing nsenterprise nomination.

giving to shuehan

some irrelevant stuff in there from something else

Comment on attachment 58745 [details] icons for classic the filename for one of the images is too long. If this jar was uncompressed on mac this filename would get cut off and the image would "break"

Comment on attachment 58746 [details] [diff] [review] patch for classic r=andreww - provided that one long filename is changed (message-mail-imapdelete-offl.gif)

Comment on attachment 58746 [details] [diff] [review] patch for classic sr=hewitt

I was wondering if this fix has landed on the trunk yet? I am seeing a possible regression in classic theme with the envelope icon. It dissapears after a mesg has been downloaded. Fine in modern theme.

*** Bug 114992 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

adding note, that currently in trunk builds, classic theme only, envelope icons will dissapear when downloading mesgs. Both the developer and qa are aware of this.

*** Bug 118335 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

this is fixed

Using commercial trunk builds: 2002-01-11-09-trunk Win nt 4.0 2002-01-11-08-trunk linux 2.2, mac 9.1, mac 10.1 Verified that there is a download icon for mail messages in classic theme. A dark (almost gray)envelope icon represents a downloaded mesg. A white envelope icon represents a non-downloaded mesg. Modern mail icons are fine. And when you switch between themes, the downloaded mesg keeps correct icon regardless of what theme it was originally downloaded in. Marking as verified.