Buddy Lindsey Reporter
	Description • 12 years ago

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120514 Firefox/14.0a2
Build ID: 20120514053159

Steps to reproduce:

1) I went to http://developers.mozilla.org
2) I went to http://mozilla.org/developer
3) I went to http://mozilla.org/developers


Actual results:

1) I got a server not found
2) I got a wiki page that was how to get started contributing to mozilla
3) was redirected to http://developer.mozilla.org/


Expected results:

I keep going to developer[s].mozilla.org instead of developer, not sure why. Would be awesome if it would redirect to developer.mozilla.org since http://mozilla.org/developers redirects to developer.mozilla.org. Also mozilla.com/developer goes to a wiki page instead of redirecting to developer.mozilla.org. Just seems to be a lot of discontinuity on getting places. Would also be nice to go to mdn.mozilla.org and dev.mozilla.org to get to developer.mozilla.org.

	Jake Maul [:jakem]
	Comment 1 • 12 years ago

#1 seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to have... I've added it to DNS and Apache configs, so it should start working soon (takes a while for puppet to propagate the changes).

On mdn.mozilla.org- This also seems reasonable... added!

On dev.mozilla.org- not sure about this. "Dev" can mean a lot of things... webdev, core (Firefox) dev, or a "dev" environment (as opposed to stage or prod). I'm not sure I'm prepared to claim this for MDN outright.


On #2 and #3... I'm not sure what should happen here. I do think they should probably be the same, as it doesn't make sense to me that a simple pluralization should result in a totally different outcome. However, which way to go I'm not entirely sure of... the two pages (wiki vs MDN) apply to completely different types of developers.

I'm going to kick this over to the www.mozilla.org webdev team, as they (rather than IT) maintain the redirects on that site.

Another issue with that page is that it has a link to "Web developers" that looks like this: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/. That in turn redirects to a particular page on MDN, but that page doesn't exist. The link should be updated... perhaps just to the MDN homepage?

	John Karahalis [:openjck]
	Comment 2 • 12 years ago

BuddyL just noticed that some of these are no longer working.

1. developers.mozilla.org
2. mdn.mozilla.org

	Jake Maul [:jakem]
	Comment 3 • 12 years ago

(In reply to John Karahalis [:openjck] from comment #2)
> BuddyL just noticed that some of these are no longer working.
> 
> 1. developers.mozilla.org
> 2. mdn.mozilla.org

Broke during the Kuma migration, these vhosts didn't exist on the new cluster. The fix is checked in to puppet, and will be live in 30min or less.

This leaves just the original issues #2 and #3 from comment 0 and comment 1. CC'ing Rik, who is now one of the primary devs maintaining www.mozilla.org.

	John Karahalis [:openjck]
	Comment 4 • 12 years ago

Hey Rik. Wondering what you think about this. Should the following URLs redirect to the MDN homepage?

* http://mozilla.org/developer
* http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/

	Anthony Ricaud (:rik)
	Comment 5 • 12 years ago

- http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/ is already redirecting to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web_Development. Isn't it a good destination?

- For http://mozilla.org/developer, ccing some recent committers of this page to get their opinion. David, Stefan?

	David Boswell
	Comment 6 • 12 years ago

(In reply to Anthony Ricaud (:rik) from comment #5)
> - For http://mozilla.org/developer, ccing some recent committers of this
> page to get their opinion. David, Stefan?

I think most people use that page now for the links to Nightly builds, so redirecting to nightly.mozilla.org could be an option.

Redirecting to the Developer Guide on MDN is another option.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide

I think it's Sheppy's call though since he owns any unowned docs on www.mozilla.org.

	Eric Shepherd [:sheppy]
	Comment 7 • 12 years ago

That's a good question.

I'd say that mozilla.org/developer probably should link to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide. That makes more sense. Although it will break workflow for people used to going there for a link to the nightly builds.

I'd suggest we add a link to nightly from the developer guide, but it would be woefully out of place there.

So let's just do that redirect to the developer guide and if anyone complains, we can look at at least temporarily adding a nightly link.

	David Boswell
	Comment 8 • 12 years ago

Linking to Developer Guide sound good.  Adding a link there to nightly.mozilla.org does seem a bit related -- if you're a developer and check in code to Firefox it goes into a Nightly release for testing.

	Ben (:bensternthal)
	Comment 9 • 12 years ago

Confirming we will blanked redirect

mozilla.org/developer

to

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide

I will assign this.

	Kohei Yoshino
	Comment 10 • 11 years ago

The redirect has been set. Closing the bug.