From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686; en-US; rv:0.9+) Gecko/20010601 BuildID: 2001060221 In XFree86 4.1.0 rpms, RedHat removed libXIE.so. Mozilla uses this lib. at least components/libgfx_gtk.so require this lib I am not sure who should act: RedHat to include libXIE back or Mozilla team to stop using this library. I will submit bug to RedHat as well Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. ldd components/libgfx_gtk.so 2. 3.

correcting typo in summary, adding blizzard to CC. Seems it's the rawhide version you're talking about, but that's where erratas are born...

Oh, shure, I mentioned RawHide version.

um, blizzard assigned this to asa, so i'm giving it to blizzard.

libXIE from XFree86 4.1.0 seems to make Mozilla crash on some pages. Reproducable on this site (to mention one): http://www.namesys.com/faq.html. The exact same binaries of Mozilla 0.9.1 run great without crashing on the mentioned page with XFree86 4.0.3 - but with 4.1.0 built from SRPM from Rawhide (with libXIE ENABLED) it doesn't. The library is there, and the extension loads fine. And.. even ldd components/libgfx_gtk.so tells me that it finds libXIE. So.. what's wrong with 4.1.0, or are there any changes to this library? I've recompiled 0.9.1 agains XF 4.1.0 as well - still crashing...

*** Bug 85351 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

bug 85856: SuSE hase removed XIElib from XFree86 4.1.0 as well. marking dup, removing RH from summary.

*** Bug 85856 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Here's what mharris@redhat.com says: "Update: The XFree86 team has specifically deprecated XIE and PEX extensions officially. They have been removed from the default builds of XFree86 now, as they are way obsolete and mostly unused nowadays. This is the original reason for removing these extensions and libraries from our XFree86 packages. It reduces bloat. At the time I made the decision to remove XIE/PEX from our official packages - I was pretty sure that there would be nothing out there that was important that should be using them. Unfortunately, I was wrong. As millions are pointing out - Mozilla is linked to XIE. I discovered this *myself* prior to any bugs being reported, and contacted our Mozilla developer. I was told that Mozilla should never have been using XIE, and that the XIE code would be removed ASAP. Thus I left XIE disabled because Mozilla would soon be updated to not require XIE. Mozilla 0.9.1 was supposed to not have XIE requirement, but ended up still requiring XIE after all. This was probably my misunderstanding, although I've been told that the XIE code will indeed be removed real soon now. To make life easy on everyone else out there, I have decided to re-enable the XIE/PEX extensions in our builds, but deprecate them. What this means is that software using these extensions, etc. will continue to work, however they will officially be removed from a future release of Red Hat Linux. Our next release will probably keep XIE and PEX, but future releases after that will likely not have them. I will be adding deprecation warnings to the XIE/PEX extensions and libraries that will get echoed to the XFree86 logs when they are loaded. This should be adequate enough to warn anyone using/needing this stuff that it will be removed in a future release, but keep binary compatibility across all at least existing Red Hat Linux 7.x releases, plus possibly one future release or so. XIE (X Image Extension) is truely obsolete, having a codebase that is more or less unmaintained or developed for 10 years I am told. The same goes for PEX. PEX is a 3D environment for X Windows, which is totally obsoleted by the existence of OpenGL. Neither of these extensions/libraries will be officially supported by XFree86.org any longer, and there is no sane justification for us to support these obsolete codebases either. So this is pretty much a BIG heads up to any developers out there, or users using programs that need XIE/PEX to speak up now and let us know what applications you may be using aside from Mozilla that rely on XIE/PEX. Summary: The reason for this deprecation is that the official XFree86.org team that maintains the XFree86 codebase has officially obsoleted it. We are only following suit as there is no way we can support something that the official development team cant/wont support. In the mean time, my next build of XFree86 4.1.0 will have XIE/PEX enabled again." <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43720>

Mike Harris has told me that there are new RPMS available that include XIE again for those of you who are running rawhide.

I experience some problems with xauth on suse 7.0 after installing xfree 4.1.0 own suse xservers based on xfree, probably isn't related but hopes more info could help.

SuSE has added a tar file, with the libXIE libraries, to unpack after installing their XFree86 4.1.0 rpms.

> Mike Harris has told me that there are new RPMS available > that include XIE again for those of you who are running rawhide. Did he mention to you /where/ those new RPMs might be? I've checked all over ftp.rawhide.com, but as of now all the XFree86-4.1.0 RPMs and SRPMs are dated June 2nd. I'd just go back to waiting, except you've given me this glimmer of hope that new versions are already available, if only I knew where to look :) FYI, Mozilla 0.8.1 RPMs (at least the ones bundled with Ximian GNOME) work with XFree86-4.1.0. Rawhide users might want to give that a try in the meantime.

Hello mozilla developers and mozilla users, I didn't use the rpm's from rawhide, but the rpm's from Suse ftp site. The exact url is: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.1.0-SuSE/suse71 As you already guessed, I'm running Suse 7.1 at the moment. After upgrading XFree86 4.0.2 (shipped with Suse 7.1) to XFree86 4.1.0 with given rpm's, mozilla won't run. But after some reading on the mozilla site and searching the bugzilla site, I discovered that the problem is the lack of XIE libs in XFree86 4.1.0. Suse provides this libs in a seperate zip file, called libXIE.tar.gz, which can be found in the same directory as the XFree86 4.1.0 rpm's. After unpacking this zip, all problems went away. I hope this information helps all people, having the same problem. Mozilla rocks! Keep up the good work. Gilbert

The checkin for 83920 removes the use of XIE from the gtk port. Closing.

Verified. XIE isn't used anymore.