Aaron Leventhal Reporter
	Description • 23 years ago

The Alt+F9 key combination should focus the sidebar. This is according to the
spec agreed to at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ui/accessibility/mozkeylist.html

	timeless
	Comment 1 • 23 years ago

i'm sorry i missed the discussion, but i believe accel-f9 might be ok, alt-f9 
is vaguely intrusive on os behaviors.

instead of 
Move mouse to focus location. This helps enable non-mouse users.
using accel-f9, it should use accel-shift-f9.

The spec which aaron references is unnacceptable because it prevents insertion 
of tab characters in editors, until that is resolved I do not think it can be 
considered the 'agreed to [spec]'.

	matt
	Comment 2 • 23 years ago

access

	Peter Trudelle
	Comment 3 • 23 years ago

p3 for 097

	Samir Gehani
	Comment 4 • 23 years ago

Moving to mozilla0.9.8.

	Samir Gehani
	Comment 5 • 23 years ago

Sidebar triage team: nsbeta1+

	Samir Gehani
	Comment 6 • 23 years ago

Spilling over to mozilla1.0.

	Blake Ross
	Comment 7 • 23 years ago

Alt+F9 isn't very intuitive.  I would rather we fix Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab to
include the sidebar in its cycling, just as IE does, and as we once did before
that regressed.  I think bryner already has a bug on it?

	Aaron Leventhal Reporter
	Comment 8 • 23 years ago

The idea for Alt+f9 comes from the fact that F9 is the key for toggling the
sidebar. Do you still think it's unintuitive?

If the sidebar is in the tab order, that would probably be okay. I think it
should only be the currently open tab that is in the tab order, because more tab
stops interferes with the ability of users to get to the page content quickly.
It may very well be confusing to blind users, who have to hear where each tab
has brought them, before deciding what to do next.

Either way, we still need a keystroke to immediately focus the sidebar. It's
important to be able to focus specific UI elements, such as the sidebar or URL
bar, immediately with 1 keystroke -- otherwise, it is very difficult for
keyboard users to do what they want with any kind of efficiency.

So, do you have a more intuitive keystroke? If Sidebar becomes a button next to
Home on the personal toolbar, then the S could be underlined as an Alt+S
accesskey indication. Other than that, I can't think of something better than
Alt+F9, can you?

	Peter Trudelle
	Comment 9 • 23 years ago

Reassigning 'several bugs at once' to Steve Morse, to level the load better
across the team.

	Peter Trudelle
	Comment 10 • 23 years ago

nsbeta1- per ADT triage team. current open tab is in tab order.

	Peter Trudelle
	Comment 11 • 23 years ago

Mass-moving all Navigator team 1.0 nsbeta1- bugs to 1.1

	Stephen P. Morse
	Comment 12 • 22 years ago

reassign to component owner

	Vedran Miletic
	Comment 13 • 21 years ago

retargeting

	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 14 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

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	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 15 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

If you can confirm that this report still applies to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it back to the NEW state along with a comment on how you reproduced it on what Build ID, or if it's an enhancement request, why it's still worth implementing and in what way.
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	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 16 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

If you can confirm that this report still applies to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it back to the NEW state along with a comment on how you reproduced it on what Build ID, or if it's an enhancement request, why it's still worth implementing and in what way.
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If no action happens within the next few months, we move this bug report to an EXPIRED state.

Query tag for this change: mass-UNCONFIRM-20090614

	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 17 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

If you can confirm that this report still applies to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it back to the NEW state along with a comment on how you reproduced it on what Build ID, or if it's an enhancement request, why it's still worth implementing and in what way.
If you can confirm that the report doesn't apply to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it to the appropriate RESOLVED state (WORKSFORME, INVALID, WONTFIX, or similar).
If no action happens within the next few months, we move this bug report to an EXPIRED state.

Query tag for this change: mass-UNCONFIRM-20090614

	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 18 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

If you can confirm that this report still applies to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it back to the NEW state along with a comment on how you reproduced it on what Build ID, or if it's an enhancement request, why it's still worth implementing and in what way.
If you can confirm that the report doesn't apply to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it to the appropriate RESOLVED state (WORKSFORME, INVALID, WONTFIX, or similar).
If no action happens within the next few months, we move this bug report to an EXPIRED state.

Query tag for this change: mass-UNCONFIRM-20090614

	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 19 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

If you can confirm that this report still applies to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it back to the NEW state along with a comment on how you reproduced it on what Build ID, or if it's an enhancement request, why it's still worth implementing and in what way.
If you can confirm that the report doesn't apply to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it to the appropriate RESOLVED state (WORKSFORME, INVALID, WONTFIX, or similar).
If no action happens within the next few months, we move this bug report to an EXPIRED state.

Query tag for this change: mass-UNCONFIRM-20090614

	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 20 • 15 years ago

This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but has been without a comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project. This means that it was logged against the old Mozilla suite and we cannot determine that it's still valid for the current SeaMonkey suite. Because of this, we are setting it to an UNCONFIRMED state.

If you can confirm that this report still applies to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it back to the NEW state along with a comment on how you reproduced it on what Build ID, or if it's an enhancement request, why it's still worth implementing and in what way.
If you can confirm that the report doesn't apply to current SeaMonkey 2.x nightly builds, please set it to the appropriate RESOLVED state (WORKSFORME, INVALID, WONTFIX, or similar).
If no action happens within the next few months, we move this bug report to an EXPIRED state.

Query tag for this change: mass-UNCONFIRM-20090614

	Robert Kaiser
	Comment 21 • 14 years ago

MASS-CHANGE:
This bug report is registered in the SeaMonkey product, but still has no comment since the inception of the SeaMonkey project 5 years ago.

Because of this, we're resolving the bug as EXPIRED.

If you still can reproduce the bug on SeaMonkey 2 or otherwise think it's still valid, please REOPEN it and if it is a platform or toolkit issue, move it to the according component.

Query tag for this change: EXPIRED-20100420

	Karsten Düsterloh
	Comment 22 • 13 years ago

Sidebar is part of the F6 focus circle.