Yousheng Li [:yli] Reporter
	Description • 10 years ago

The link of http://www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/firefox/features/ is 404.

	Pascal Chevrel:pascalc (PTO until August 21)
	Comment 1 • 10 years ago

Please don't mark bug as employee confidential if it is not needed :)

It is a regression as it used to show the en-US page as a fallback and not a 404, I am not seeing recent changes in the .htaccess file or includes/prefetch.php on the php side, so my guess is that a redirect/regex catching urls for the features page on Bedrock regressed that.

	Pascal Chevrel:pascalc (PTO until August 21)
	Comment 2 • 10 years ago

Digging a bit, I think this is because the php features page for en-US was deleted on the PHP side in r123400 and there is no bedrock fallback set up to display the newer page on the Python side, so if we had no page for the locale, it no longer falls back to en-US.

Given that localized versions are already a bit out of date and that my understanding is that we are going to replace this page soon because of Australis, I am tempted to just redirect all features page for locales to bedrock and en-US as this is probably causing lots of 404s on the server. Jennifer, what do you think?

	Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch]
	Comment 3 • 10 years ago

Chris and Steven -

Any thoughts?

We are getting rid of /firefox/features altogether for all locales on April 29.

Thx,
Jen

	Steven Garrity [:sgarrity]
	Comment 4 • 10 years ago

Since this page never existed in the zh-CN locale, it used to load the en-US page as a fallback. I would propose we leave this as a 404 since there was never a distinct zh-CN page at this URL.

Is the URL being used anywhere prominent? We can probably come up with a more appropriate location.

	Pascal Chevrel:pascalc (PTO until August 21)
	Comment 5 • 10 years ago

This url is part of default about:home snippets
http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/abouthome/aboutHome.js#141

	Chris More [:cmore]
	Comment 6 • 10 years ago

(In reply to Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch] from comment #3)
> Chris and Steven -
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> We are getting rid of /firefox/features altogether for all locales on April
> 29.
> 
> Thx,
> Jen

Should we just redirect people over to:

http://www.firefox.com.cn/desktop/features/ 

?

We already redirect this:

http://www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/

We are receiving about ~1,400 of these 404s per day and 93% are coming from inside China.

	Pascal Chevrel:pascalc (PTO until August 21)
	Comment 7 • 10 years ago

No objection from me on the redirect, but I would prefer that the fallback to en-US for this page actually works as it used to as we can't redirect all the locales without a feature page to external sites.

	Steven Garrity [:sgarrity]
	Comment 8 • 10 years ago

(In reply to Chris More [:cmore] from comment #6)
> Should we just redirect people over to:
> http://www.firefox.com.cn/desktop/features/ 

+1

	Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch]
	Comment 9 • 10 years ago

+1

	Chris More [:cmore]
	Comment 10 • 10 years ago

We are getting similar 404s for:

/zh-CN/mobile/
/zh-CN/firefox/releases/whatsnew/
/zh-CN/firefox/*/firstrun/

Here are some options:

1) Do a bunch of individual redirects on www.mozilla.org to redirect to specific URLs on www.firefox.com.cn.

2) Redirect all www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/* traffic to http://www.firefox.com.cn/

3) Fix the www.mozilla.org redirects so they go to en-US even though nearly all of these users have their browser set to zh-CN.

Seems like #2 is the easiest and get the user to their native language. They will then have to navigate to other URLs, but it will be tricky to set up redirects to different URLs on their website and then hope they don't break.

	Yousheng Li [:yli] Reporter
	Comment 11 • 10 years ago

(In reply to Chris More [:cmore] from comment #10)
> We are getting similar 404s for:
> 
> /zh-CN/mobile/
> /zh-CN/firefox/releases/whatsnew/
> /zh-CN/firefox/*/firstrun/
> 
> Here are some options:
> 
> 1) Do a bunch of individual redirects on www.mozilla.org to redirect to
> specific URLs on www.firefox.com.cn.
> 
> 2) Redirect all www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/* traffic to http://www.firefox.com.cn/
> 
> 3) Fix the www.mozilla.org redirects so they go to en-US even though nearly
> all of these users have their browser set to zh-CN.
> 
> Seems like #2 is the easiest and get the user to their native language. They
> will then have to navigate to other URLs, but it will be tricky to set up
> redirects to different URLs on their website and then hope they don't break.

Hi Chris,
For the #2, we are not ready to hosting all of the traffic of www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/*.
We prefer #3, redirect 404s to the en-US pages.

	Chris More [:cmore]
	Comment 12 • 10 years ago

(In reply to Yousheng Li [:yli] from comment #11)
> (In reply to Chris More [:cmore] from comment #10)
> > We are getting similar 404s for:
> > 
> > /zh-CN/mobile/
> > /zh-CN/firefox/releases/whatsnew/
> > /zh-CN/firefox/*/firstrun/
> > 
> > Here are some options:
> > 
> > 1) Do a bunch of individual redirects on www.mozilla.org to redirect to
> > specific URLs on www.firefox.com.cn.
> > 
> > 2) Redirect all www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/* traffic to http://www.firefox.com.cn/
> > 
> > 3) Fix the www.mozilla.org redirects so they go to en-US even though nearly
> > all of these users have their browser set to zh-CN.
> > 
> > Seems like #2 is the easiest and get the user to their native language. They
> > will then have to navigate to other URLs, but it will be tricky to set up
> > redirects to different URLs on their website and then hope they don't break.
> 
> Hi Chris,
> For the #2, we are not ready to hosting all of the traffic of
> www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/*.
> We prefer #3, redirect 404s to the en-US pages.

Ok, that works and thanks for letting us know. 

So, #3 it is.

	Kohei Yoshino
	Comment 13 • 10 years ago

The URL now goes http://www.mozilla.org/zh-CN/firefox/desktop/ instead of 404.

	Yousheng Li [:yli] Reporter
	Comment 14 • 10 years ago

It works now, thanks for all!