Closed
Bug 14532
Opened 25 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
Netscape-branded content in Mozilla tree
Categories
(Core Graveyard :: Tracking, defect, P1)
Core Graveyard
Tracking
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
mozilla1.0
People
(Reporter: BenB, Assigned: shaver)
References
Details
(Keywords: meta)
I really don't want to piss against Netscape, but what's lying in the SeaMonkey tree isn't funny anymore.
There's lot of "Netscape" showing and poping up, that's ok *for now*. But please take a look at "Help|About Communicator".
Comment 1•25 years ago
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This article might interesting for the relevance:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/09/20/1051226&mode=thread
Comment 2•25 years ago
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reporter(ben), could you please change the summary and clearly(and succinctly) state the
problem in the body of this bug? - Thanks
Reporter | ||
Updated•25 years ago
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Summary: Netscape → "Netscape" appearing in chrome
Comment 3•25 years ago
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I noticed, the copyright page as changed since the last days, but most problems
remain.
I'm not even close to being a lawyer, but if it right, what I know of NPL/MPL,
there're still at least the following legal/ethnical problems (ignore all
invalid ones):
- No mention of MPL (other licences?)
- NPL 1.0 (isn't 1.1 current?)
- No mention of other Initial Developers (even stating Netscape is the only one)
- Mozilla is no commercial item
Updated•25 years ago
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Assignee: shuang → chofmann
Comment 4•25 years ago
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I am giving this one to chofmann to find proper person for the clean up work. I
suspect that there mignt be other locations that have similar problems.
Updated•25 years ago
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Assignee: chofmann → don
Comment 5•25 years ago
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this clean up work is underway. -> don, cc hyatt,pavlov,matt
I note a lot of this stuff is gone as of 1999102608. Stuff associated with
"What's Related" lingers. For one, shouldn't the "Related Links" stuff point to
dmoz.org rather than info.netscape.com and directory.netscape.com?
Reporter | ||
Comment 7•25 years ago
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Braden, could you please explain "this stuff"? Problems 1, 3 and 4 I mentioned
still exist.
Reporter | ||
Comment 8•25 years ago
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Braden, if you speak about the skin, I have to second that. I see much less
"Netscape", although it is still there, e.g the default message window of
Messenger or "Help|New to the Net". Links to Netscape, where no open source
counterpart exists (at the moment), will be harder, like "Help|Help", "Help|Tech
Support", the additional panels and "My Netscape".
And don't forget the dialogs! (Sorry, can't be more specific.)
There is no netscape stuff in
help menu's. I don't know if we are going to yank
the my netscape bookmarks. Brendan, Shaver? Who makes the call?
Reporter | ||
Comment 10•25 years ago
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Matt,
in fact, there aren't there anymore, they must have been removed (or I'm
stupid).
See
<URL:http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/modules/libpref/src/init/config.js>
for the prove, that I'm not crasy.
Reporter | ||
Comment 11•25 years ago
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> And don't forget the dialogs! (Sorry, can't be more specific.)
Here's at least one:
<http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpfe/components/ucth/resources/locale/en-US/unknownContent.dtd#4>
Depends on: 17620
Summary: "Netscape" appearing in chrome → [META] "Netscape" appearing in chrome
Comment 12•25 years ago
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Making a "meta" bug; adding 17620 as a dependency.
Reporter | ||
Comment 13•25 years ago
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As long as the issues mentioned here aren't ignored...
Comment 14•25 years ago
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Fix this in M13.
Assignee | ||
Updated•25 years ago
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Assignee: don → shaver
QA Contact: claudius → dmose
Assignee | ||
Comment 15•25 years ago
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I have fixes for most of the chrome stuff. I want to hit the M12 tree with
them.
Assignee | ||
Updated•25 years ago
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Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Target Milestone: M13 → M14
Assignee | ||
Comment 16•25 years ago
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Updating milestone to match latest milestone of dependency (M14 for 21575).
Comment 17•25 years ago
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Doing l10n work I ran across "Netscape" strings in
chrome/messenger/.../imapMsgs.properties
Shouldn't that also be changed to "Mozilla"?
Comment 18•25 years ago
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Moving all UE/UI bugs to new component: User Interface: Design Feedback
UE/UI component will be deleted.
Component: UE/UI → User Interface: Design Feedback
Comment 19•25 years ago
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in the Tasks menu there is a menu item labled "Netscape". Should this be
"Browser" or "Mozilla".
Comment 20•25 years ago
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oops, I meant "Navigator" in the Tasks menu. It also shows up in the File menu.
Assignee | ||
Comment 21•25 years ago
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I think ``Navigator'' is fine. It's one of the names we use for the browser
component (c.f. chrome://navigator/content/ or what have you).
Reporter | ||
Comment 22•25 years ago
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Bug #27477 is about the problems I mentioned in the copyright page.
Depends on: 27477
Comment 23•25 years ago
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the netcenter bookmarks are back in the default profile.
adding another dependancy
Depends on: 31531
Comment 24•25 years ago
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ok, so maybe they never went away and I'm just blind.
Reporter | ||
Comment 25•25 years ago
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Widening scope from the word "Netscape" to all Netscape-specific chrome. I hope,
that in your interest, shaver.
Please add all concrete bugs as dependency.
pavlov, I think you forgot to actually add the dependency to the bookmarks bug.
Summary: [META] "Netscape" appearing in chrome → Netscape-specific chrome in Mozilla tree
Comment 26•25 years ago
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Adding 'skins' keyword to selected chrome bugs. Please add any omissions.
Sorry for any mistakes...
Keywords: skins
Comment 27•25 years ago
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Shouldn't this bug be re-targetted for a current or future milestone, hopefully
M16?
Reporter | ||
Updated•25 years ago
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Target Milestone: M14 → M16
Comment 29•25 years ago
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removing from skins radar after discussing with shaver.
Comment 31•25 years ago
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Upating [nsbeta-] to read [nsbeta2-] in Status Whiteboard.
Whiteboard: [nsbeta-] → [nsbeta2-]
Comment 32•25 years ago
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Comment 33•24 years ago
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M16 has been out for a while now, these bugs target milestones need to be
updated.
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Comment 34•24 years ago
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IMO this is a MUSTFIX for mozilla1.0, especially if Netscape did not promise not
to sue competing Mozilla distributors because of this bug.
Keywords: mozilla1.0
Assignee | ||
Comment 35•24 years ago
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I agree that this is a 1.0 issue. I'm cleaning up TM and keywords and stuff,
and will try to make time today to go look at the depended-upon bugs and figure
out which should also be a 1.0 issue.
Keywords: mozilla1.0,
nsbeta2
Summary: Netscape-specific chrome in Mozilla tree → Netscape-branded content in Mozilla tree
Whiteboard: [nsbeta2-]
Target Milestone: M16 → mozilla1.0
Updated•23 years ago
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Comment 37•22 years ago
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I totally disagree.
Why the anti-Netscape bias? Is Netscape leaving the Mozilla.org project?
Last time I looked, Netscape started this project. Netscape is funding
it. Netscape is promoting it, and still suddenly "netscape" is a curse word??.
Look at Sun and their OpenOffice / StarOffice... OpenOffice is open source, YET,
when you check the "about..." you see "Copyright Sun Microsystems, and
openoffice.org contributors". That is an open source project not ashamed of
praising (instead of biting) the hand that feeds them.
I am seeing a small but growing anti-Netscape movement in the Mozilla.org
community, some extremists that wish that Netscape (the browser and the company)
"would just go away". In my opinipon, these elements are of little value to
Mozilla.org, and the development of corporate-sponsored open source projects.
I'm frankly tired of all the "remove Netscape"-bashing. First it was Netscape
and now AOL who has spent a lot of money developing Mozilla -- true, there's
some amount of outside development, but the bulk of it has been funded by AOL
for use in their Netscape product. The least you can do is lend a few kind words.
Personally, I use the Netscape-branded browser (Netscape 7 is a very good
browser on all three platforms) and I use their portal site. You should, too.
All of this stupid Slashdot groupthink of "Mozilla good, Netscape bad!"
completely ignores the fact that if there were no Netscape, there would be no
Mozilla.
Or the more likely scenario -- if AOL hadn't acquired Netscape, Netscape might
have gone out of business without the backing of a big tech player, and most of
you would be using Mozilla 0.2 right now.
Give Netscape some credit, folks, even if it means just a small little word
somewhere in the about box or in the docs.
They're trying to be a good open source citizen. Don't disappoint them with a
childish "take take take" attitude.
Just my $0.02
Fernando
Reporter | ||
Comment 38•22 years ago
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> Why the anti-Netscape bias?
The first words here read "I really don't want to piss against Netscape", and
were totally meant this way. I don't have anything against Netscape as a company.
Ever heard of trademark law? I don't want to risk to be sued just for
distributing a Mozilla binary. Having Beonex or whatever call itself "Netscape"
in the browser UI is just embarrassing, also.
More responses in bug 37877 comment 20.
You should have seen Mozilla back when the bug was filed (more than 3 years
ago!). The state today is relatively OK, left are only more or less nitpicks.
Thanks to gerv and all others who helped with this bug, BTW. Oh, and while I am
at it, thanks to Netscape for the huge general code contributions to Mozilla.
Reporter | ||
Comment 39•21 years ago
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As stated in the last comment, this is 98% fixed. The remaining blockers are
mostly void, wontfix or irrelevant. So, as the reporter, I am declaring this
fixed. Thanks a lot to all the people who helped with that, including gerv and
probably others I don't remember or are not aware of!
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Updated•8 years ago
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Product: Core → Core Graveyard
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