Closed
Bug 146677
Opened 22 years ago
Closed 22 years ago
Allow tabs with tabs
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: Tabbed Browser, enhancement)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
WONTFIX
People
(Reporter: ajhoskinguk, Assigned: Matti)
References
Details
This would be a killer feture and an inovation to allow different levals with
tabs.Maybe even tabs with tabs with tabs?
Comment 2•22 years ago
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Not sure if you mean what I think what you mean, but this is probably not good
from a usability point of view... See http://www.iarchitect.com/tabs.htm
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Comment 4•22 years ago
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-> sorry but this is wontfix
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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Comment 5•22 years ago
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Hey think about this before you dismiss it might be confusing for some people
but if it was off by default?
I filed this because well you've already got tabs with tabs if you have multiple
windows open each with multiple pages open in them this would stop the need for
more than one window after you have 8 or more pages open.
Comment 6•22 years ago
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*** Bug 148375 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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Comment 7•22 years ago
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There would be know UI problems if this was off by defalt
Comment 8•21 years ago
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*** Bug 231329 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9•21 years ago
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why is this just outright refused? i think it would work a lot better than most
seem to think. If you had tabs A and B, with B active, and opened one of these
"sub-tabs", a new tab bar would appear under the first, when B is active. The
title displayed in B would be the active sub-tab.
would it be possible to implement this as an extension?
Comment 10•21 years ago
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This has been refused on the grounds that it would be very bad from a usability
perspective. It would increase the complexity of the interface for an effect
that can be more simply achieved by having multiple windows - each with their
own set of tabs.
As the previous link I added seems to have died, here's a replacement:
http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/shame.htm
If you want to create this as an extension, feel free.
[removing myself from the CC list]
Comment 11•21 years ago
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*** Bug 218180 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12•21 years ago
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I don't think this would complicate the UI that much. Besides David, the same
argument you are using could be used against tabs in general (that the user can
just use different windows). Right now I have 9 bugzilla tabs open, 2 email
tabs, and a google search tab. If I could see them as three tabs and when I
click on the tab view any subtabs, that would make it much easier on me;
subtabs would be as useful to tabs as tabs are to windows, and of course, using
subtabs would be entirely optional, the user would have to choose it (much like
using tabs).
Alex was complaining that it wasn't fair for Matt to just WONTFIX the bug
without an explanation. All that had been said previously is "this sounds
horrendous", with no explanation either. I think that until someone puts out a
good reason why this bug shouldn't ever be fixed, it should have a target
milestone of "future".
Comment 13•21 years ago
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The link posted by David gives no real critism of this idea. The referenced
page has several examples of bad tabbed interfaces, but no where did I see
mention of a "tabs within tabs" idea. However, it did have quite a bit of
**** usages of multi-row tabbed interfaces, but I don't believe the multi-row
part is what makes them so bad.
Particularly, the sub-tab rows should never appear wider than their respective
parents. Also, when implemented, it is certainly an important aspect that there
are no lines, bars, or other such graphical element, under the parent tab and
above the new row of tabs. Currently, the tabs are sort of underlined, as they
are a bit more seperated from the pages they associate with, than most tabs are
to their associated information. It would be an important distinction for the
user to see that the sub-tabs are within the context of the parent tab, by
removing the seperation below a selected parent tab.
Additionall, what should the title of a parent tab be? Personally, I think it
should default as the title of its currently active sub-tab. There should also
be an option to rename it, or perhaps even some way to generate a shared title.
For example, if you had two sub-tabs titled "Foo.com - bar" and "Foo.com -
baz", perhaps it should find the shared string "Foo.com" nad display that.
One further issue I wanted to bring up is that a tab with sub-tabs should have
an option to be saved as a group of bookmarks, seperate from the other tabs.
As a slightly seperate remark, perhaps there needs to be a "EXPIRIMENTING"
state to mark a bug as, so that if there is dispute over the future of the bug
or feature, it is apparent that work needs to be done before it is known if it
should be brought into the trunk.
Comment 14•21 years ago
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(In reply to comment #13)
> [...]
> Additionall, what should the title of a parent tab be? Personally, I think it
> should default as the title of its currently active sub-tab. There should also
> be an option to rename it, or perhaps even some way to generate a shared title.
> [...]
I think the parent tabs title should be that of the group tab name. See my
comment #2 in Bug 21818.
A couple of things I've thought of since:
(1) an ability to reorder tabs within a group tab, without having to delete it
and reinsert tabs and saving again.
(2) an ability to copy/move tabs between different grouped tabs.
Comment 15•21 years ago
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Moving and copying of tabs could be done by simple drag-and-drop interaction.
holding the tab's icon near the edge of a tab would allow you to insert between
that tab and the one next to it. Holding over a tab with children, which isnt
active, for a period of time could activate that tab-group for placement within
it. Perhaps a right-drag-and-drop could give an option at the drop time to move
or copy or cancel, through a pop-up menu. This is much like like the right-drag
feature in windows explorer. I suppose that while dragging, one would see
something like a box with the tab name, or even the graphic of the tab itself.
This should probably be given its own bug, in order to keep things organized.
It would, of course, depend on this bug and we can deal with that when the
first issue is _actually_ resolved.
Updated•16 years ago
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Product: Core → SeaMonkey
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