Closed
Bug 590373
Opened 14 years ago
Closed 14 years ago
Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS hotfix KB2454826 installed (automatic on 1/11/11), mainly dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Categories
(Core :: Graphics, defect)
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RESOLVED
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blocking2.0 | --- | betaN+ |
People
(Reporter: RyanVM, Assigned: bjacob)
References
Details
(Keywords: crash, topcrash, Whiteboard: [#1 topcrash on Fx4.0b8 and Fx4.0b9][hardblocker])
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(2 files, 1 obsolete file)
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joe
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Details | Diff | Splinter Review |
After installing the new MS hotfix for graphics performance released today: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=e04dd3bd-c34b-42ef-978b-10b73e7d5bba&displaylang=en I get crashes on startup immediately after the main window loads. http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-88680c8a-dee6-4db0-b9dd-bbade2100824
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Updated•14 years ago
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blocking2.0: --- → ?
Comment 1•14 years ago
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I can't reproduce this. You rebooted after installing it, as it asked, right?
Comment 3•14 years ago
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Works fine for me. Using an ATI HD5870 with latest drivers. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:2.0b5pre) Gecko/20100824 Minefield/4.0b5pre - Build ID: 20100824170052
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Comment 5•14 years ago
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OK, apparently Intel updated their drivers on their website but not through Windows Update. I upgraded from the v2141 to v2182 drivers and it's not crashing anymore. Maybe a driver issue after all?
Comment 6•14 years ago
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Interesting. I suspect that we won't need to worry about this once Microsoft pushes this hotfix out in a service pack - at least, I hope not. Something I'm interested in is if, with the old driver, you install IE9 (installing the three hotfixes it requires) Firefox still crashes on startup. If one of the other two hotfixes also fixes this problem, we have less to worry about.
ryan/joe: there's a .dump file available for the original crash report. That means that we should be able to get a better stack for this if you want it: UUID 88680c8a-dee6-4db0-b9dd-bbade2100824 Signature [Expand] Source _VEC_memzero d2d1.dll@0x42e44 d2d1.dll@0x4286c d2d1.dll@0x43627 d2d1.dll@0x322f2 d2d1.dll@0x5f049 d2d1.dll@0x334ea d2d1.dll@0x5ed60 d2d1.dll@0x28027 d2d1.dll@0x26e73 d2d1.dll@0x27521 d2d1.dll@0x1e5e0 _cairo_d2d_flush gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-d2d-surface.cpp:2555 _moz_cairo_surface_flush gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-surface.c:974 _moz_cairo_destroy gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo.c:344 mozilla::layers::BasicThebesLayer::Paint gfx/layers/basic/BasicLayers.cpp:426 mozilla::layers::BasicLayerManager::PaintLayer gfx/layers/basic/BasicLayers.cpp:1069 mozilla::layers::BasicLayerManager::PaintLayer gfx/layers/basic/BasicLayers.cpp:1077 mozilla::layers::BasicLayerManager::EndTransaction gfx/layers/basic/BasicLayers.cpp:977 nsDisplayList::PaintForFrame layout/base/nsDisplayList.cpp:395 nsLayoutUtils::PaintFrame layout/base/nsLayoutUtils.cpp:1409 PresShell::Paint layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp:5915 nsViewManager::RenderViews view/src/nsViewManager.cpp:459 nsViewManager::Refresh view/src/nsViewManager.cpp:425 nsViewManager::DispatchEvent view/src/nsViewManager.cpp:940 AttachedHandleEvent view/src/nsView.cpp:193 nsWindow::DispatchEvent widget/src/windows/nsWindow.cpp:3485 nsWindow::DispatchWindowEvent widget/src/windows/nsWindow.cpp:3516 nsWindow::OnPaint widget/src/windows/nsWindowGfx.cpp:567 nsWindow::ProcessMessage widget/src/windows/nsWindow.cpp:4696 nsWindow::WindowProcInternal widget/src/windows/nsWindow.cpp:4287 nsWindow::WindowProc widget/src/windows/nsWindow.cpp:4239 InternalCallWinProc NtUserGetDC DispatchClientMessage __fnDWORD ntdll.dll@0x100e5 DispatchMessageW nsBaseAppShell::OnProcessNextEvent widget/src/xpwidgets/nsBaseAppShell.cpp:312 xul.dll@0x1cdd8f nsXPConnect::Push js/src/xpconnect/src/nsXPConnect.cpp:2670 nsThread::ProcessNextEvent xpcom/threads/nsThread.cpp:517 mozilla::ipc::MessagePump::Run ipc/glue/MessagePump.cpp:134 xul.dll@0xb8cd53 MessageLoop::RunInternal ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:219 MessageLoop::RunHandler ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:202 EmitNameOp js/src/jsemit.cpp:2622 _SEH_epilog4 MessageLoop::Run ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:176
Comment 8•14 years ago
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No problems here after installing this performance hotfix. Win7 x64 with nVidia GTX260 card. No crashes on startup with either win32 or win64 latest nightly builds. So could be really Intel GMA related.
Comment 9•14 years ago
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I agree that this was likely a driver issue. D2D enabled (nightlies) was crashing for me consistently with the same video card as the reporter. Installing the latest driver from Intel resolved the crashes.
Comment 10•14 years ago
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Depending on what Microsoft does with SP1 and/or IE9, we may need to block on this in the future, but I think that just putting this into the driver blacklist would be enough.
blocking2.0: ? → -
Comment 11•14 years ago
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It is #78 top crasher in 4.0b8pre for the last week. It seems to happen only with Intel HD graphics and graphic driver version 8.15.10.2141. Chris, can we have a breakdown by ID card and by igd10umd32.dll version to confirm that?
Blocks: 605779
Summary: Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] on startup with D2D enabled and MS performance hotfix installed → Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] at startup with D2D enabled, MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, Intel HD graphic card and graphic driver 8.15.10.2141
Comment 12•14 years ago
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I'm finding a few reports with igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 like these. igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC _memzero http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/462d6ffe-3102-4fe7-b88b-a75ba2101030 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC _memzero http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/746d8917-95ab-4c9e-b1d5-4e8a02101030 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC _memzero http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/91755c8b-3cc1-4c97-9a49-610ce2101030 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC _memzero http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8cf7d76e-516b-4620-b7db-68f422101030 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC _memzero http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/951b1cca-4d3c-493f-97a2-2b3fd2101030 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC _memzero http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b1cf8c36-9c3c-4dfe-9f94-d11192101030 more in the attachment coming up.
Comment 13•14 years ago
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here is a stat summary. we might need to refine this because my serach appears to have picked up a few hang reports with similar signatures like hang | _VEC_memzero 159 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2141 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 90 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 15 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2141 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 2a42 11 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2141 Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1, v.153 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 8 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0042 7 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2141 Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1, v.721 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 7 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2141 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 2e32 and several reports where no version is reported for this signature. 13 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 1002, AdapterDeviceID: 95c5 20101101-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 7 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 1002, AdapterDeviceID: 95c4 20101030-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 6 Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1, v.178 AdapterVendorID: 1002, AdapterDeviceID: 9616 20101102-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 5 Windows NT 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 \N 20101101-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 5 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 \N 20101101-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 4 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2131 Windows NT 6.1.7600 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 4 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 \N 20101102-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 4 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 \N 20101031-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 4 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 \N 20101031-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 3 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2125 Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1, v.721 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0042 3 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 \N 20101102-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 2 Windows NT 6.1.7600 \N 20101102-crashdata.csv:hang | _VEC_memzero 2 Windows NT 6.1.7600 \N 20101102-crashdata.csv:_VEC_memzero 2 Windows NT 6.1.7600 \N 20101030-crashdata.csv:hang | _VEC_memzero 2 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 \N 20101102-crashdata.csv:hang | _VEC_memzero 2 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 \N 20101101-crashdata.csv:hang | _VEC_memzero 2 Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 \N 20101031-crashdata.csv:hang | _VEC_memzero < long tail snipped>
Comment 14•14 years ago
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Here are the latest crash reports: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?range_value=4&range_unit=weeks&signature=_VEC_memzero&version=Firefox%3A4.0b8pre From the fixing of bug 600152 in 4.0b7pre/20100929, the minimum Intel driver version for the most recent cards and D2D/D3D features is 8.15.10.2202. As there are crashes at startup with Intel card in 4.0b8pre, it seems that the driver blacklisting for D2D/D3 features is not taken into account during at least the first 14 seconds after the start of Firefox.
Summary: Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] at startup with D2D enabled, MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, Intel HD graphic card and graphic driver 8.15.10.2141 → Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] at startup with D2D enabled, MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, mainly with Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Comment 15•14 years ago
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It is #67 top crasher in 4.0b7 for the last week. According to some comments, it happens with dual graphics, so Intel driver blacklisting does not work in that case, as Intel graphics is the secondary card, i.e. AdapterVendorID is either ATI or NVIDIA. As there are a lot of bugs that implicated dual/switchable graphics, it would be helpful to handle several cards, for driver blacklisting and Troubleshooting page graphics section.
Summary: Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] at startup with D2D enabled, MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, mainly with Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below → Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] at startup with D2D enabled, MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, with dual graphics, mainly with Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Comment 16•14 years ago
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It is #37 top crasher in 4.0b8 for the last week.
blocking2.0: - → ?
Summary: Crash [@ _VEC_memzero] at startup with D2D enabled, MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, with dual graphics, mainly with Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below → Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Comment 17•14 years ago
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I don't think #37 is high enough to block on, but I do think this should be looked at in the near future.
blocking2.0: ? → .x
Comment 18•14 years ago
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It is #1 top crasher in 4.0b8 and 4.0b9. It is seldom for a startup crash. A lot of new users can't even start Firefox. I request a BetaN blocking.
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Comment 19•14 years ago
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Please note that this crash can happen without dual graphics. My laptop has only Intel integrated graphics.
Updated•14 years ago
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Summary: Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below → Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, mainly dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Comment 20•14 years ago
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MS performance hotfix KB2028560 should be installed manually. MS performance hotfix KB2454826 (which includes KB2028560) has been installed automatically by Windows Update on 1/11/11. It explains the spike.
Summary: Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS performance hotfix KB2028560 installed, mainly dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below → Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS hotfix KB2454826 installed (automatic on 1/1/11), mainly dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Updated•14 years ago
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Summary: Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS hotfix KB2454826 installed (automatic on 1/1/11), mainly dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below → Crash mainly at startup [@ _VEC_memzero] with MS hotfix KB2454826 installed (automatic on 1/11/11), mainly dual graphics, mainly Intel driver version 8.15.10.2141 and below
Comment 21•14 years ago
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BJacob, let's blacklist that intel driver version, and cry knowing an MS update can cause this.
Comment 22•14 years ago
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As stated in comment 15, these versions are already blacklisted for D2D/D3D features!
Comment 23•14 years ago
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Is the blacklist doing some wrong comparison then? Because these are clearly machines that have D2D loaded. There should not be any ignoring of the blacklist in the first <x> seconds before startup.
Comment 24•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #24) > Is the blacklist doing some wrong comparison then? Because these are clearly > machines that have D2D loaded. There should not be any ignoring of the > blacklist in the first <x> seconds before startup. Never mind, I should learn to read the bug properly first before posting. So we need the ability to consider all graphics cards considered on the system, and assume RyanVM is an 'exception'.
Comment 25•14 years ago
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Considering the raised prevalence this should probably get up'ed in blocker status.
blocking2.0: .x → ?
Comment 26•14 years ago
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Comment 15 about the blacklisting by-passing is applicable when Intel's GPU is the first or single card. Comment 16 about the dual graphics managing is applicable when Intel's GPU is the secondary card.
Comment 27•14 years ago
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Ouch, so many Intel users still haven't updated their drivers from looking at the crash logs. Intel G45(X4500HD/MHD IGP) chipset users should install the latest drivers for their IGP, 8.15.10.2226. 32bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19468&ProdId=2991&lang=eng 64bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19469&ProdId=2991&lang=eng For Intel HD Graphics(Clarkdale/Arrandale) and the newer HD Graphics 2000/3000(Sandy Bridge) users, you should install the latest drivers for those IGPs, 8.15.10.2266. 32bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19645 64bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19647
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Comment 28•14 years ago
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Would be nice if Intel could get Microsoft to push them out over Windows Update.
Comment 29•14 years ago
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But at least this report states Intel HD graphics as the adapter/vendor: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c439394d-2c11-44bd-a470-5b4a32110117 AdapterVendorID: 8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0046 igd10umd32.dll 8.15.10.2141 How come we're not blacklisting that??
Updated•14 years ago
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Whiteboard: [#1 topcrash on Fx4.0b8 and Fx4.0b9]
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Comment 30•14 years ago
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We should be blacklisting that. Let's reproduce by spoofing our vendor/device ids and version number...
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Comment 31•14 years ago
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I can't reproduce: when I spoof, $ MOZ_GFX_SPOOF_VENDOR_ID=8086 MOZ_GFX_SPOOF_DEVICE_ID=0046 MOZ_GFX_SPOOF_DRIVER_VERSION=8.15.10.2141 dist/bin/firefox.exe -P test -no-remote I do get blacklisted: Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Quadro FX 880M Vendor ID 8086 Device ID 0046 Adapter RAM 1024 Adapter Drivers nvd3dumx,nvwgf2umx,nvwgf2umx nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um Driver Version 8.15.10.2141 Driver Date 6-27-2010 Direct2D Enabled Blocked on your graphics driver. Try updating your graphics driver to version 8.15.10.2202 or newer. DirectWrite Enabled false (6.1.7600.16385) WebGL Renderer (WebGL unavailable) GPU Accelerated Windows0/1
Updated•14 years ago
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blocking2.0: ? → betaN+
Whiteboard: [#1 topcrash on Fx4.0b8 and Fx4.0b9] → [#1 topcrash on Fx4.0b8 and Fx4.0b9][hardblocker]
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Comment 32•14 years ago
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Two remarks: * the prevalence of this bug seems to be going down quickly: it was #1 in beta9, now crash-stats lists it as #40 in b10pre. * we have already had in the past some cases with intel drivers where the DriverVersion reported in the registry wasn't equal to the DLL version (igd10umd32.dll), see for instance bug 595364 comment 9. That was associated with crashes. As far as I could understand, this was a result of a messed up driver installation/upgrade.
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Comment 33•14 years ago
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So do you know a quick way to check the igd10umd32.dll version, without affecting startup time significantly? If yes, we should just do that, and completely blacklist the driver in case of a mismatch with the DriverVersion given by the registry.
Comment 34•14 years ago
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> * the prevalence of this bug seems to be going down quickly: it was #1 in > beta9, now crash-stats lists it as #40 in b10pre. Nightly users are a small stable geek community with usually up-to-date graphic drivers while the Beta tester public is wider and increases once the Fx4 release getting closer. In addition, it is mainly a startup crash, so it means that a lot of new users can't even start Firefox. > * we have already had in the past some cases with intel drivers where the > DriverVersion reported in the registry wasn't equal to the DLL version > (igd10umd32.dll), see for instance bug 595364 comment 9. That was associated > with crashes. As far as I could understand, this was a result of a messed up > driver installation/upgrade. The only way to confim this theory is to fix bug 624703 then check the differences between driver and dll versions. In addition, some crashes have an ATI or NVIDIA card as primary card and an Intel card as secondary card. The current blocklisting does not take into account the secondary card while it should.
Depends on: 624703
Comment 35•14 years ago
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> Nightly users are a small stable geek community with usually up-to-date graphic
> drivers while the Beta tester public is wider and increases once the Fx4
> release getting closer. In addition, it is mainly a startup crash, so it means
> that a lot of new users can't even start Firefox.
Thats a true. Its both composition and size of the testing pool that plays a role here. There are currently 1.2 Million active daily users on beta 9, and about 15,000 on b10pre.
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Comment 36•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #35) > > * we have already had in the past some cases with intel drivers where the > > DriverVersion reported in the registry wasn't equal to the DLL version > > (igd10umd32.dll), see for instance bug 595364 comment 9. That was associated > > with crashes. As far as I could understand, this was a result of a messed up > > driver installation/upgrade. > The only way to confim this theory is to fix bug 624703 then check the > differences between driver and dll versions. Patch attached to bug 624703. But rather than waiting for it to be checked in and for data to come, in order to get a chance to have that fixed in beta 10, I'm going to go ahead and write the patch implementing my idea in case it's true.
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Comment 37•14 years ago
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Here you go. * when the registry lies about the DriverVersion, we block all gfx features * not using HAVE_64BIT_OS because it's an incredibly misleading name as discussed on bug 598615. But this sizeof(void*)==8 test is exactly what it does. * had to move the vendorIntel constant up; moved other constants too to keep them together.
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Comment 38•14 years ago
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Comment on attachment 505558 [details] [diff] [review] block graphics featurs when the windows registry lies about DriverVersion Maybe only block DX10 > >+ mHasDriverVersionMismatch = PR_FALSE; >+ if (mAdapterVendorID == vendorIntel) { >+ // we've had big crashers (bugs 590373 and 595364) apparently correlated >+ // with bad Intel driver installations where the DriverVersion reported by the registry was >+ // not the version of the DLL. >+ PRUnichar *dllFileName = sizeof(void*) == 8 ? L"igd10umd64.dll" : L"igd10umd32.dll"; I'd separate this out on to multiple lines >+ nsString dllVersion; >+ gfxWindowsPlatform::GetPlatform()->GetDLLVersion(dllFileName, dllVersion); What happens if this fails >+ PRUint64 dllNumericVersion = 0; >+ ParseDriverVersion(dllVersion, &dllNumericVersion); >+ PRUint64 driverNumericVersion = 0; put the declarations together and add a blank line inbetween. >+ ParseDriverVersion(mDriverVersion, &driverNumericVersion); >+ if (dllNumericVersion != driverNumericVersion) >+ mHasDriverVersionMismatch = PR_TRUE; >+ } >+
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Comment 39•14 years ago
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Comment 40•14 years ago
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Landed: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a7fa7b09e662 leaving open until it's verified. Will also need to check tomorrow with people with intel cards that we didn't break anything (fear of accidentally blacklisting good systems). If there's a problem, we will back out before beta 10.
Comment 41•14 years ago
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In reply to comment 41 This patch depends on the theory about mismatch between driver and dll versions, which hasn't been proved yet. So let's wait the landing of bug 624703. Even if it is true, this patch won't fix the case where the primary GPU is ATI or NVIDIA and the secondary GPU is Intel. See for instance: bp-16a426c6-6144-4203-8a69-d16a52110120. For more info, see comment 16 and comment 35.
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Comment 42•14 years ago
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Indeed. While it's easy to detect the case where there are 2 GPUs, I wonder what the criterion for blocking should be in that case? Hopefully now that bug 624703 is landed we'll get more data.
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Comment 43•14 years ago
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In today's nightly build we have a spike of crashes with this signature. However, I am unsure about the revision used for this build. The 'App Notes' don't have the DriverVersion as I added in bug 624703. Even in case of a bug in the code I added, There should still be a comma now after the DeviceID, which there isn't. What's happening?
Comment 44•14 years ago
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In reply to comment 43 > While it's easy to detect the case where there are 2 GPUs, I wonder > what the criterion for blocking should be in that case? The switchable GPUs case is a more generic problem than only this startup crash. Because of possible GPU switching at any moment (after Windows sleeping mode for instance), HW acceleration should be available only if both GPU drivers are not blocklisted (HW acceleration enabling/disabling requires a cold start). But the secondary GPU driver version does usually match the primary GPU driver version. This behaviour can be used. Indeed, after the landing of bug 623338, the driver cut-off date will be almost the same for all GPUs (mid-2010) and will fix this issue. In reply to comment 44 > In today's nightly build we have a spike of crashes with this signature. A spike for a startup crash in a nighlty build means nothing.
Depends on: 623338
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Comment 45•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #44) > In today's nightly build we have a spike of crashes with this signature. > > However, I am unsure about the revision used for this build. The 'App Notes' > don't have the DriverVersion as I added in bug 624703. Even in case of a bug in > the code I added, There should still be a comma now after the DeviceID, which > there isn't. > > What's happening? Holy ... !! All those crashes I was seeing have this build ID: 20110120030332 I mistakenly interpreted this as today's nightly, but it is yesterday's! And we don't have any crash at the moment with today's nightly build ID: 20110121030329 So it seems that this bug is likely fixed by my patch, which makes me happy :) Aside of course from the case that Scoobidiver mentions with multiple GPUs, but even then, if this particular crash was correlated with mismatched driver versions, it's going to be avoided now. Anyway, we'll see if crashes still happen now :-)
Comment 46•14 years ago
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>+ PRUnichar *dllFileName = sizeof(void*) == 8 ? L"igd10umd64.dll" : L"igd10umd32.dll";
I may be completely off here, but will this work if I run a 32bit browser in a 64bit OS?
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Comment 48•14 years ago
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Still zero crashes in today (January 21)'s nightly build. Still not conclusive: there also haven't been crashes with the January 19 build.
Comment 49•14 years ago
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> Aside of course from the case that Scoobidiver mentions with multiple GPUs, but
> even then, if this particular crash was correlated with mismatched driver
> versions, it's going to be avoided now.
It is not a particular test case according to 4.0b9 crash-stats correlations and the attached file:
100% (641/642) vs. 2% (914/38770) igd10umd32.dll
95% (612/642) vs. 6% (2149/38770) atiuxpag.dll
ATI GPU as primary card: 5% of all crashes
Your patch does not work when an ATI GPU is the primary card (if (mAdapterVendorID == vendorIntel)).
Comment 50•14 years ago
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For an Intel GPU as a primary card, your patch works so well than it prevents HW acceleration for dual GPUs even with the latest driver version.
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Comment 51•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #50) > > Aside of course from the case that Scoobidiver mentions with multiple GPUs, but > > even then, if this particular crash was correlated with mismatched driver > > versions, it's going to be avoided now. > It is not a particular test case according to 4.0b9 crash-stats correlations > and the attached file: > 100% (641/642) vs. 2% (914/38770) igd10umd32.dll > 95% (612/642) vs. 6% (2149/38770) atiuxpag.dll Sorry, can you please explain what these numbers are? Also, why does this bug's title say "mainly dual graphics"? Do we know that a majority of crashes here are on dual-GPU machines? That wasn't my understanding. The vast majority of crash reports I've seen here were showing only Intel graphics involved.
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Comment 52•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #51) > For an Intel GPU as a primary card, your patch works so well than it prevents > HW acceleration for dual GPUs even with the latest driver version. Why? With an Intel GPU as primary card, my patch looks at the DLL version of igd10umd32.dll and checks it is consistent with the Intel DriverVersion from the registry. Why would that block if the driver is correctly installed? It is my understanding here that GetDLLVersion works equally well regardless of whether the DLL is the driver currently in use.
Comment 53•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #53) > (In reply to comment #51) > > For an Intel GPU as a primary card, your patch works so well than it prevents > > HW acceleration for dual GPUs even with the latest driver version. > > Why? With an Intel GPU as primary card, my patch looks at the DLL version of > igd10umd32.dll and checks it is consistent with the Intel DriverVersion from > the registry. Why would that block if the driver is correctly installed? > > It is my understanding here that GetDLLVersion works equally well regardless of > whether the DLL is the driver currently in use. I'm guessing it might compare the igd10umd32.dll version with the version of the ATI/NVidia driver! That could be problematic for beta 10 for dual GPU users :(
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Comment 54•14 years ago
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(In reply to comment #54) > (In reply to comment #53) > > (In reply to comment #51) > > > For an Intel GPU as a primary card, your patch works so well than it prevents > > > HW acceleration for dual GPUs even with the latest driver version. > > > > Why? With an Intel GPU as primary card, my patch looks at the DLL version of > > igd10umd32.dll and checks it is consistent with the Intel DriverVersion from > > the registry. Why would that block if the driver is correctly installed? > > > > It is my understanding here that GetDLLVersion works equally well regardless of > > whether the DLL is the driver currently in use. > > I'm guessing it might compare the igd10umd32.dll version with the version of > the ATI/NVidia driver! That could be problematic for beta 10 for dual GPU users > :( Why would it? It compares the igd10umd32.dll version with the DriverVersion read from the registry. With an Intel GPU as primary card, that would be the intel DriverVersion, no?
Comment 55•14 years ago
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What happens when a user switches between two graphics cards while using Firefox? Is the device lost/removed and subsequently recovered/reinitialized? When this happens, is the blacklist consulted?
Comment 56•14 years ago
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OK, looks like this patch continues to work, since there are no crashes in buildids since 2011-01-20. Let's call this fixed, and file followup bugs for future work (eg, verifying multi-GPU configurations).
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 14 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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Updated•14 years ago
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Assignee: nobody → bjacob
Comment 57•14 years ago
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> 100% (641/642) vs. 2% (914/38770) igd10umd32.dll
> 95% (612/642) vs. 6% (2149/38770) atiuxpag.dll
Sorry, can you please explain what these numbers are?
numbers on the right indicate how prevalent the dlls are around in crashes with this signature. Numbers on the right indicate how prevalent the .dlls are around in crashes for all signatures.
explicitly
igd10umd32.dll is around 100% of the item in this crash signature, whereas its around only 2% in all crashes reports for a given day.
and atiuxpag.dll is around 95% of the item in this crash signature, whereas its only around 6% of the time in all crashes
Comment 58•14 years ago
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In other words, 95% of these crashes are (were) on Intel/AMD dual GPU systems? (5% either Intel-only or Intel/NVIDIA dual GPU, presumably)
Comment 59•14 years ago
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> In other words, 95% of these crashes are (were) on Intel/AMD dual GPU systems?
Yes. The bug summary has been changed for 2 months to reflect that analysis.
Comment 60•14 years ago
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Yeah. I just hadn't really seen AMD/ATI mentioned before. Is Intel/ATI a lot more prevalent than Intel/NVIDIA? I suppose it doesn't really matter though.
Comment 61•14 years ago
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I don't see any nv*.dll in correlations for this signature that could reveal the presence of a NVIDIA GPU. But may be it don't need one. Dbaron's script allows to have correlations by version: 100% (641/642) vs. 2% (914/38770) igd10umd32.dll 12% (75/642) vs. 0% (75/38770) 8.15.10.2125 88% (566/642) vs. 1% (567/38770) 8.15.10.2141 95% (612/642) vs. 6% (2149/38770) atiuxpag.dll 78% (502/642) vs. 2% (600/38770) 8.14.1.6117 12% (77/642) vs. 0% (126/38770) 8.14.1.6126 1% (7/642) vs. 0% (53/38770) 8.14.1.6136 3% (17/642) vs. 1% (261/38770) 8.14.1.6160 1% (8/642) vs. 1% (544/38770) 8.14.1.6170 I don't know how the atiuxpag.dll version is correlated to the AMD driver version that looks like 8.741.0.0. Let's continue this discussion in bug 628129.
No longer depends on: 623338
Comment 62•14 years ago
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The latest Intel drivers for HD Graphics(Clarkdale & Arrandale) and HD Graphics 2000/3000(Sandy Bridge is 8.15.10.2279. 32bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19759 64bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19761
Comment 63•14 years ago
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Intel has finally released new drivers, 8.15.10.2281 for Intel G45 chipset(X4500HD/MHD IGP), the last driver released was 8.15.10.2226 previously. 32bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=19788 64bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=19784 For HD Graphics(Clarkdale/Arrandale) and HD Graphics 2000/3000(Sandy Bridge), Intel also has released new drivers, 8.15.10.2291. 32bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19807 64bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19809
Comment 64•14 years ago
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FYI, Microsoft has "blacklisted" 8.15.10.2104 through 8.15.10.2141. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2498452 Users cannot install Win7 SP1, and "Windows Update will not offer you update KB2454826."
Comment 66•14 years ago
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Intel has released new drivers 8.15.10.2321 for HD Graphics(Clarkdale/Arrandale) and HD Graphics 2000/3000(Sandy Bridge). 32bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19903 64bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3319&DwnldID=19906
Updated•13 years ago
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Crash Signature: [@ _VEC_memzero]
Comment 67•13 years ago
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What about DX9 cards like atom intel 3150. The driver file is only igdumdx32 without igd10umd32. about:support page says that the D2D is blocked because of driver. Intel dev=a011 8.14.10.2364 driver igdumdx32 .
Comment 68•13 years ago
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gader, this bug is fixed. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers
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