Kim Moir [:kmoir] ET Reporter
	Description • 12 years ago

Some of the puppet manifests I'm migrating from the old puppet to the new puppet use install_name_tool  which is installed with Xcode.  I talked to dividehex in IRC and he said he could look at this today.  I tried to connect to this machine via screen sharing but it didn't work for me.  If there is a special incantation that's needed to connect, it would be great to know for next time :-)

	Kim Moir [:kmoir] ET Reporter
	Comment 1 • 12 years ago

I figured out my wonky vnc issues today and was able to install it myself :-)

	Amy Rich [:arr] [:arich]
	Comment 2 • 12 years ago

So in the past, I think we had explicitly NOT installed Xcode on test machines to make sure that there were no accidentally libraries not included, etc.  Is this a change in direction for OS X talos machines?

	Jake Watkins [:dividehex]
	Comment 3 • 12 years ago

I believe in previous versions of osx we were able to install 'command_line_tools' separately from xcode.  It now seems to be bundled with xcode.

If this is still the case and we really need the install_name_tool, we might have to use a homebrew package to get it installed.

	John Ford [:jhford] CET/CEST Berlin Time
	Comment 4 • 12 years ago

I spent a lot of time figuring out how to have these machines exist without a full Xcode installation.

See:
http://hg.mozilla.org/build/puppet-manifests/file/c75bcae2bd97/os/talos_osx_rev4.pp#l136
http://hg.mozilla.org/build/puppet-manifests/file/c75bcae2bd97/os/talos_osx_rev4.pp#l145

Also:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690601
https://bug690601.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=566366

I know of no reason why we need the full Xcode on these machines.

	John Ford [:jhford] CET/CEST Berlin Time
	Comment 5 • 12 years ago

Since Apple has changed the structure of their Xcode packages in the App Store, you might need to grab a DMG from their website.  It might be that you need to use the command line tools package.

	Amy Rich [:arr] [:arich]
	Comment 6 • 12 years ago

So form the conversation with jhford, we will not be installing Xcode on talos machines, we will be rolling a dmg for the one binary that's required.