Closed
Bug 76103
Opened 24 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
Replace previous installation alert has bad wording
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: Installer, defect)
SeaMonkey
Installer
Tracking
(Not tracked)
VERIFIED
WORKSFORME
Future
People
(Reporter: mpt, Assigned: slogan)
References
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Details
(Keywords: polish)
Attachments
(1 file)
(deleted),
patch
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Details | Diff | Splinter Review |
Build: 2001-04-13-something, Mac OS 9.1
To reproduce:
* Install Mozilla.
* Start re-installing Mozilla, and specify the same folder to install it in.
* Click `Continue', and read the alert.
What you read:
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| An older installation of Mozilla was detected. Please choose to delete the
| directory contents of your current Mozilla installation by hitting the
| 'Delete' button. Alternatively, please hit the 'Cancel' button and choose a
| different destination directory
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| ( Cancel ) (( Delete ))
The main problem with this text is that it's just too long. In addition, I
count at least twelve individual UI problems with the wording and punctuation.
Listing them all here would probably be counter-productive, so ...
What you should read:
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| An older installation of Mozilla already exists in this location. Are you
| sure you want to replace it with the one you're installing?
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| ( Cancel ) (( OK ))
(This wording is closely modelled on that used when overwriting files in the
Finder.)
Reporter | ||
Comment 1•24 years ago
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Ok, looks like this applies to the Unix installer too. I don't know why it's in
two Unix files, rather than just one.
Gah. I made a mistake in my suggested wording. It should be:
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| An older installation of Mozilla already exists in this location. Do you want
| to replace it with the one you're installing?
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| ( Cancel ) (( OK ))
(`Are you sure you want to' should only be used when the destination item is
newer than the source item, and that's not true in this case.)
Comment 2•24 years ago
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Comment 3•24 years ago
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ssu, can you please review my attached fix?
I cannot verify that it actually works in the installer (since I don't own a
unix or a mac), but at least it compiled fine! :)
Tell me what you think...
Keywords: helpwanted
Comment 4•24 years ago
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Mac => sgehani
dveditz: wrong bug? this is all/all and has a patch
Comment 6•24 years ago
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timeless: sgehani does the Linux and Mac installers, ssu does windows
Samir: setting desired milestone (keyword) to 0.9.1 given the nearness of 0.9
and your backlog, but the patch looks good (and safe) if you can squeeze it in
with your other bugs.
r=dveditz for the text change. I'm not so keen on changing the button from
"Delete" to "OK" -- I don't want users to gloss over the potential destruction
of themes and plugins they've installed. If a "Delete" button is somewhat
surprising then good, that was the point.
Assignee: ssu → sgehani
Keywords: mozilla0.9.1
Reporter | ||
Comment 7•24 years ago
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Hmmmm. dveditz has a point. I think the Finder's alerts in this situation use
`OK', rather than `Delete', because deletion isn't a recognizable part of the
user's move/copy action -- it's just a side issue. When the user acts to delete
something, and they get a confirmation dialog, the button should be `Delete',
because the user is expecting something to be deleted. But when the user acts
to install something, and they get shown a button called `Delete', they'd be
much more likely to just click `Cancel' without reading the alert at all. (I
wasn't deleting, I was installing!)
However, it is good for the action button to be a verb. So perhaps `Replace'
would be better -- it's more understandable that already-installed files are
going to be Replaced by the new ones, than that something is going to be
Deleted as a result of the installation.
Thanks for working on this, Håkan.
Comment 8•24 years ago
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The problem with "Replace" is that this isn't all we do -- the Mac and Linux
installs still follow "nuke from orbit" practices, and until "surgical
upgrades" are implemented on those platforms we DELETE any and everything in
the installation directory whether it was ours or not.
If a "Delete" button scares people into cancelling, backing up, and picking a
fresh directory then I think it has done its job.
Once a better upgrade strategy is in place this dialog wording issue is moot.
Reporter | ||
Comment 10•24 years ago
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The same still applies to any folder which is overwritten -- even if the
to-be-overwritten folder contains a lot more stuff than the replacement folder,
the button in the Mac OS alert still just says `OK'.
I filed bug 76458 for extra text explaining that plugins and themes will be
nuked. But I still think the button should just read `Replace'.
Reporter | ||
Updated•23 years ago
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Blocks: patchmaker
Comment 12•23 years ago
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we dont show this warning anymore
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 23 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
Comment 13•23 years ago
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This warning is still displayed on Mac and Linux when upgrading or installing
over a previous installation.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: INVALID → ---
Comment 14•21 years ago
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OS X has no installer
alert on Windows was rewritten in bug 210731
alert on Linux was rewritten in bug 69153
marking WFM
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 23 years ago → 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: Browser → Seamonkey
Updated•20 years ago
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No longer blocks: patchmaker
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