Peter Trudelle Reporter
	Description • 25 years ago

Tracking bug for UI design issues of concern to developers.

	Matthew Tuck [:CodeMachine]
	Comment 1 • 25 years ago

Any reason this is a tracking bug and not a keyword?  Keywords are there for a
reason ...

	Matthew T (active 1999-2002)
	Comment 2 • 25 years ago

It's not a keyword, because it would be more-or-less redundant. There's a `User 
Interface: Design Feedback' component already.

I suspect this is Trudelle's personal tracking bug for UI stuff he's interested 
in. Just be glad he uses a tracker bug, instead of plastering a redundant flag 
everywhere (like don@netscape.com does with `[RFE]').

	Peter Trudelle Reporter
	Comment 3 • 25 years ago

It is a tracking bug because that is better for tracking the issues. Keywords 
don't facilitate viewing the dependency tree, or notification when bugs change. 
I would like to have a UI keyword though, to be able to find bugs that are 
logged against other components.

	Matthew Tuck [:CodeMachine]
	Comment 4 • 25 years ago

"Personal" tracking bugs should use the stored query facility which can display
a set of bugs and not appear in the database.  Excluding trudelle's issues, all
the facilities should be in place to do this now.

Viewing the dependency tree is a known issue, see bug #12992.

For knowing what bugs have been added to a keyword, you'll have to look at bug
#14137.

	Peter Trudelle Reporter
	Comment 5 • 25 years ago

I don't know what you mean by "personal", but I'm not doing this to amuse 
myself; it is part of my job as a manager on this project. I'm using this bug to 
track the resolution of some serious design issues. The bug reports you mention 
propose good enhancements, but in themselves provide nothing that I need, hence 
the tracking bug.  

	Charles Manske
	Comment 6 • 25 years ago

Adding another UI issue: Consistent Padding/margin values, bug 29237

	Matthew Tuck [:CodeMachine]
	Comment 7 • 25 years ago

"Personal" means for one person.  Hence no need to be in the database, given
adequate support.  Otherwise it should be a keyword.

Those enhancement requests provide sufficient functionality to do this, if
there's something missing let me know.

	Ben Goodger (use ben at mozilla dot org for email)
	Comment 8 • 25 years ago

This bug is for the benefit of a group of people concerned about the UI. Please 
try to understand the context of the situation before telling people what they 
should or should not be doing. 

	Matthew Tuck [:CodeMachine]
	Comment 9 • 25 years ago

Err, excuse me?  When did I tell someone what to do?

It is fine to create a tracking bug if it provides extra functionality, I was
trying to find out what it was in this case, if any, so I can submit
enhancements as necessary so we no longer need to use tracking bugs.

Noone said whether it was personal earlier - that's not a problem, the aim then
is to improve Bugzilla so it can be a keyword.

	Peter Trudelle Reporter
	Comment 10 • 25 years ago

reassigning to hangas, who now owns these issues

	Mike
	Comment 11 • 25 years ago

M16 has been out for a while now, these bugs target milestones need to be 
updated.

	Zach Lipton [:zach]
	Comment 12 • 24 years ago

Chaning the qa contact on these bugs to me. MPT will be moving to the 
owner of this component shortly. I would like to thank him for all his hard 
work as he moves roles in mozilla.org...Yada, Yada, Yada...

	Asa Dotzler [:asa]
	Comment 13 • 24 years ago

updating to new owner. sorry for the spam.

	Matthew T (active 1999-2002)
	Comment 14 • 24 years ago

Peter, you filed this bug, and I don't know exactly what it's for -- other than 
by watching how quickly particular bugs get fixed, I have no way of telling 
which bugs are `of concern to developers' and which are not. Reassigning to 
you, but I suspect the bug has served its purpose.

	Peter Trudelle Reporter
	Comment 15 • 24 years ago

->future

	Greg K.
	Comment 16 • 23 years ago

I'm starting an effort to formalize an effort to revise the parts of Mozilla's
appearance outside themes, such as the icon suite, the installer, the splash
screen, and the Profile Manager dialog.

I've started a web page with some initial ideas and bug links at
[http://greg.tcp.com/mozilla/ui/Outside/introduction.html]. I welcome any and
all comments on it.

	Peter Trudelle Reporter
	Comment 17 • 22 years ago

Mass moving all of my open Nav/toolkit bugs to new owner.

	BMO Automation
	Comment 18 • 8 years ago

Marking all tracking bugs which haven't been updated since 2014 as INCOMPLETE.
If this bug is still relevant, please reopen it and move it into a bugzilla component related to the work
being tracked. The Core: Tracking component will no longer be used.